Concerns about Hollywood skinniness seem misplaced

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[manny613]

We seem to be watching a horror show of too thin Hollywood actresses. Or at least that would be the observation of anyone who even skims the tabloids, talk shows or People Magazine...

[Lazamataz]

Only if her diet consists of a lettuce leaf every ten days.

What a gluttonous pig.

[LoneConservative]

There's nothing "everyday" about THAT Italian...
I bought the cookbook as a Mother's day gift to my Mom- I found my Dad reading it the other day...

LC

[TheBigB]

Hey, do you want to get down to that 215 or don't you? ;o)

[najida]

Nope, married with kids....

He's just geeky.

[Lazamataz]

Hey, do you want to get down to that 215 or don't you? ;o)

A coworker told me he discovered a device that would remove 10 pounds of my ugly fat in seconds.

When I asked what it was, he showed me this picture:

[The Toll]

I have a preference for thin women as I believe many men do. It is just not acceptable to say it publicly or you will be chastised as the cause of eating disorders. The hatred I have seen directed at the women I have spent my time with is unbelievable. Now I understand that fat people get it pretty bad and I am not one to pick on them. But the women on women seething hatred of skinny girls is shocking. I guess it is okay though because in the end the skinny girl could walk off with their men anytime she wants.

[mupcat]

Did you see the kitchen makeover she did for that young couple that won the Food Network contest?

No, darn it--I missed it, but I'm sure they'll be repeating it. I must have watched her wedding program 3 times. Just a great down to earth woman who happens to cook the way I love to eat---but no longer can---well, at least, not as much as I'd like to :-).

[R. Scott]

Old saying: Women marry a man and want him to change after the wedding, but he won't. Men marry a woman and don't want her to change after the wedding, but she will.

Yep.
But I had no real complaints about my late wife, other than her sudden affinity for sweats in bed.

[GovernmentShrinker]

First of all, the message being spread on campuses isn't about "rapid weight loss", it's about ANY weight loss, or even any ATTEMPTED weight loss.

And breast cancer risk increases substantially with a gain of just 20 pounds from weight at high school graduation -- and I think the vast majority of college women weigh 20+ pounds more when they graduate from college, than when they graduated from high school. And those who have only gained 10 pounds or so, usually gain another 10 or more within the first 10 years after college, and most don't think a 20 pound gain from high school weight is a health risk. That message is much more important, since failure to communicate it costs many more lives than anorexia and bulimia do.

Here's a news summary of one fairly recent study:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4374471/

[Chode]

yeah, i can deal with that and the hairy legs too. but after 25 years, every once in awhile there's just something about having every guys eye in the room looking at your wife as she crosses the floor, and knowing you are married to her, that's prolly better than all the prozac in the world.

[exnavychick]

I guess it is okay though because in the end the skinny girl could walk off with their men anytime she wants.

I don't know about that, really, at least for the long haul. Most men I know (my husband included) don't care if you look like a Victoria's Secret model if you are a complete you-know-what to live with. It just ain't worth it, kwim?

But the women on women seething hatred of skinny girls is shocking.

But it's not something many people will acknowlege, frankly. It does go both ways, however. On the other hand, women on women hatred is some of the nastiest stuff you'll ever see. And it doesn't matter what the cause is, either. That's why my best buddies are Mr. Ex and my sister-in-law...(brother's wife). :)

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Any weight loss? Attempted weight loss? Just how would anyone know another student was attempting weight loss if it wasn't something unusual like a rapid weight loss, or a girl who spends an inordinate amount of time in the commode area after meals. Also, the abuse of laxatives is to be looked for. Do you really think the campus community is commenting "Look, Ashley is taking the fat-free dressing again!"

I read the link you posted, and I question why other variable that affect breast cancer were not mentioned. Child birth and lactation come to my mind first off. The more children you have, the longer you nurse, the lower your chance of breast cancer, but conversely, after multiple babies some weight (your 20 lbs. in the ten years post HS graduation) is likely to stay with most women. So I see the study as apples and oranges...were these woman all childless or did they all have the same number of pregnancies. A woman who gained 20 lbs. after multiple pregnancies has a different hormonal history than a woman who gained 20 pounds w/o any pregnancies. So to that study, I would respectfully ask, how was the weight gained?

[GovernmentShrinker]

Yes, the campus community is commenting (and more) on students who routinely choose fat-free dressings and diet sodas. And even just on students who turn down a slice of midnight pizza, saying they're trying to watch their weight. Many have been brain-washed into thinking that any attempt at weight loss or even weight control, in anyone who isn't severely overweight, is a warning sign of an "eating disorder". Yet virtually none think that there's any health risk associated with being 20-30-40 pounds overweight.

[GovernmentShrinker]

Gaining weight during pregnancy, beyond the normal amount, especially if it isn't all lost afterwards, also increases breast cancer risk substantially.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/04/020410075734.htm

[R. Scott]

there's just something about having every guys eye in the room looking at your wife as she crosses the floor, and knowing you are married to her, that's prolly better than all the prozac in the world.

Sort of, “Eat your heart out – she married me!”
I loved that feeling.

[PennsylvaniaMom]

Thanks for the link. Yes excessive weight gain during pregnancy causes complications. If a woman starts at 120, has three children and keeps 5 to 7 pounds on after each pregnancy, she could go to the low 140s (or lower). However, if she has three pregnancies, gains 40 lbs. or more, and then keeps 20 lbs after each delivery, she would then add over 60 lbs to her weight (now closing in on 180) and would no doubt be hypertensive, be insulin resistant, etc.

I understand what you are saying, but I place the studies that place a 20 lb gain (over a ten year period) in the same category as a 20 gain in ten weeks. Remember the BMI scales that state, if taken seriously, both President Bush and Michael Jordan are 'obese.'

[T Minus Four]

But the women on women seething hatred of skinny girls is shocking.

Boy, that's the truth. I stay a trim and fit 125 pounds (I'm 5' 6") by exercising and eating a healthy diet with tons of fresh veggies and fruit, whole grains, low-fat, no red meat.

Almost without exception the women at work are fat sows, and there is a constant parade of cookies, cakes, pies, candy, etc in our building. Every week or so there is a fund-raising luncheon serving chili dogs with Fritos and one of those bakery cookies with the pink frosting, or some such garbage.

I am given a constant ration of $*** by all the other women for resisting this junk. They'll try to arm-twist me into having some, and then laugh at me when I politely refuse. And I am polite, but I do a lot of teeth-gritting.

[T Minus Four]

Remember the BMI scales that state, if taken seriously, both President Bush and Michael Jordan are 'obese.'

I keep hearing this, but actually, with President Bush's height of 6"2" and present weight of 191 pounds, he registers at the top end of "normal", with a BMI of 24.5. Overweight would be a BMI of 25 to 29.9, and obese would be 30 and above.

See for yourself: BMI Calculator

[tiki]

I have a chunky 9 yr old granddaughter and she became even chunkier after 6 wks of staying indoors and doing crafts and artwork w/other grandma. I kinda freaked when I saw her and we had a good long talk about weight. Short story, eat 3 meals a day as much as you want, 2 snacks. Pay attention when you eat, enjoy it and be active at least one hour a day. Oh yeah, and "stand up straight and suck it up".