I find the incompetence in Washington incredible.
The reason Bush Sr. did not march on to Bagdad is he had some thinking advisors.
The people of Iraq were better off with Saddam than they will be under this "new democracy".
He had a secular government, in the midst of an Islamic stronghold . He kept religious wars and tension at bay with an iron fist.
We will now have another budding Iran that we set up to govern instead. It has already become a breeding ground for terrorists ( which it was not before )
This is not brain surgery. Some of us without the credentials of the "advisors" saw this as a real possibility before we invaded.
I fear for the Christian minority there. They will have to convert or be slaughtered.
Bush needs to stop the swagger and deal with the issues as they are now
"The people of Iraq were better off with Saddam than they will be under this "new democracy""
How were they better off?
God bless you, dear woman.
Grace & Peace, Allen
Perhaps but we weren't. Saddam was openly harboring terrorist leaders and supporting terrorists with money.
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He kept religious wars and tension at bay with an iron fist.
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Ah yes, those halcyon days of peace, free from all tension with Saddam in power and his iron fist doing little else but pen romantic novels and pose for another giant portrait.
Well...at least you've nailed your colors to the mast and there's no danger of your comments being misconstrued.
Yeah, Saddam's rape rooms were nothing compared to this.
Wake up. They were there before, they are everwhere in the slum known as the Arab ME. We just turned on the lights and the roaches scurried into it.
Instead of allowing the evil ones to plan and function in the dark, we have made them show themselves. It will take time to eradicate them, but it's the only way to go.
Rubbish.
And just so you'll know -- and I'll know that you know -- the reason Bush 41 didn't "go on to Baghdad" is because he didn't have a UN mandate to do that.
You unappeasables should at least try to work in a FEW facts into your diatribes.
Tell that to the Kurds. I believe that there will be some sort of 'blend', but the people of Iraq won't stand for a system like there exists in Iran. Heck, the people in Iran are looking for a change themselves.
You know why parents try to tell little children to stay away from matches? Because in their blissful ignorance, little children can cause a lot of damage and really hurt themselves.
You should stay away from a keyboard.
I hope there will be fewer chippers and shredders in this new incarnation.
I am aghast at your outrageous stupidity.
So, you're saying that rape cells, mass graveyards, torture, and living under a fascist dictatorship with all the terror and hell that entails is better than a republic?
You're insane. Outrageously insane or ignorant to a degree that is inconceivable. Stop Posting.
Your position cannot be let unchallenged. However, I must let a better writer excoriate you and your sick statements.
Bill Whittle wrote:
So why -- someone? anyone? – why do otherwise intelligent and educated people so despise and detest American society, which has achieved more in the way of individual rights, science, arts, medicine, diversity, cooperation and prosperity than any other in history? Why would they oppose such a society when it is trying to bring these blessings to people who have spent thirty years cowering in dark places, fearful of letting the slightest word slip, or betraying their entire family with an askew glance or unguarded moment? Why would someone so viciously oppose freeing a People who have lived for a generation in total, abject fear?
It’s because they have never lived it. That is what I mean when I say reality has left their building. How many people would be opposing the war in Iraq if they had to watch, actually witness, three or four hundred thousand people being shot in the head in front of their families? At the rate of one life taken every single second, with one unique and irreplaceable person being extinguished every tick of the 60 Minutes stopwatch, going without sleep or rest, you would be at it for three and a half days. Bang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Bang. Every face unique, every one someone’s son or mother or precious grandchild. Bang. Bang. Bang. All night and all day, every second for three and a half days. How long to wipe out your entire family? Four seconds? Eight? Thirteen? We have found that many in Iraq, more will follow, believe me.
How many children – four or five year old boys and girls – do you need to see raped in front of you before you change your mind about Iraq? Fifty? Fifty thousand? Will that make a dent in your stainless steel belief system? How many cries for mercy in the muffled corridors of prison basements? Ten thousand? Ten times ten thousand? They were there. They happened.
They just didn’t happen to you. Not in Berkeley. Not in Manhattan. Not in Santa Monica, or at Columbia University. Not in your Sanctuary. If they did we wouldn’t be having this discussion, would we? You’d be dead, and it would be your relatives begging for good and powerful people to come to their rescue to stop this horror.
There’s nothing “progressive” about what these people believe. It is refined selfishness and moral cowardice. I can understand not wanting to go overseas and lose blood and treasure to solve other people’s problems. I can at least understand that. But these “progressives” should be thanking whatever they take to be sacred – which is nothing – and hit their knees in gratitude that better, braver people have built them the kind of Sanctuary where torture and state-sponsored murder are so far from their closed eyes that even the act of imagining such horrors is beyond them.
How far from the reality of human nature do you have to be to see our culture as a curse on the Earth, rather than being the only ones willing to roll up our sleeves, shoot the wolves that are eating our kids, go out into the blizzard to collect some firewood and then paint the goddam house?
The people of Iraq were better off with Saddam than they will be under this "new democracy".
Ah yes the Rape Rooms, the Torture chambers, the mass graves. The invading Iran and Kuwait. The perpetual US/British force "containing" Iraq. Sure those were the days.
I cannot decide which is more amusing, your ignorance or your arrogance.
"The people of Iraq were better off with Saddam than they will be under this new democracy."
Only a morally obtuse person would make such a crude claim that Saddam's bloodthirsty rule was "better." You might not be a troll intentionally, but your a de facto troll because coincidentally you are repeating lefty talking points, the quote above among others.
You think the "new democracy" will gas more Kurds, put more people through the shredder and kill and bury in mass graves more Iraqis than Saddam?
This neoconservative vision of setting up Iraq as a shining city on a hill is at best a simplistic, naive view of things. At worst, it is a cover for American expansionism.
What we have here is another example of blow-back in the Middle East. We fund Osama bin Laden against the Soviets, and he attacks us with the U.S.S. Cole and 9/11. We fund Saddam against the Iranians, and Saddam decides he wants Kuwait too. We topple Saddam, and install a new Government in Iraq - which apparently will decide to model itself after Iran. Just ducky.
Tell that to the relatives of the 300,000 plus Iraqis found in mass grave all around the country (including women and children shot point blank), gassed Kurds of Khalabja, people fed feet first into plastic chippers and acid tubs, torture chamber victims or women gang-raped by Saddam thugs. What planet are you from. Ah, whatever.
"The people of Iraq were better off with Saddam than they will be under this "new democracy". "
I don't give a $#!T how great Saddam was for the Iraqi people. He was a danger to Americans, so we bombed Iraq and throw their leaders out on their asses.
The Iraqi don't have a great western life style and probably never will. But that doesn't mean we can't protect ourselves from their rotten leaders (Saddam).