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9/11 PANEL: ATTA TALE WAS BUM TIP
NY Post ^ | 8/13/05 | DEBORAH ORIN

Posted on 08/13/2005 4:35:41 AM PDT by jimbo123

The 9/11 commission yesterday defended its decision to ignore a Navy officer's report that military spies targeted lead hijacker Mohamed Atta more than a year before the attacks — and claimed the Navy man wasn't "sufficiently credible."

The statement from commission chiefs Tom Kean and Lee Hamilton came after a flip-flop, in which the panel's staff first denied and then admitted it was told Pentagon spies had linked Atta to an al Qaeda cell in New York in 2000.

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"The commission's staff concluded that the officer's account was not sufficiently reliable to warrant revision of the report or further investigation."

A skeptical Rep. Curt Weldon (R-Pa.) said the statement does nothing to answer why the Able Danger warning wasn't passed on to the FBI.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; abledanger; atta; gorelick
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To: txrangerette
Not credible = not matching with the commissions preconcieved notions or CYA story.
21 posted on 08/13/2005 5:00:53 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Bork should have had Kennedy's USSC seat and Kelo v. New London would have gone the other way.)
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To: johnny7

Something smells...

Exactly.


22 posted on 08/13/2005 5:01:09 AM PDT by Ben Chad
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To: jimbo123
ummm..apparently it was reliable...oh, no that's right, with 295,734,134 plus people running around the place- it could just be a coinky-dink. (leftists!)
23 posted on 08/13/2005 5:01:26 AM PDT by Diva Betsy Ross (Code pink stinks!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Thanks. I was dead wrong about them being young. This was one connected bunch of staffers with life experience.


24 posted on 08/13/2005 5:01:35 AM PDT by dennisw ( G_d - ---> Against Amelek for all generations)
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To: RedEyeJack

Has anyone heard a peep from Kristin Breitweiser and the Jersey Girls on this matter?

After all, they only wanted to know the full truth about how the 9/11 tragedy could have been allowed to happen? (/sarcasm)


25 posted on 08/13/2005 5:02:03 AM PDT by hotshu
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To: jimbo123

We need a special prosecutor to find out what the Clinton administration knew and when did they know it. This should have been done in October 2001, but better late than never. And Congress should investigate the 9/11 Commission's dereliction of duty. We paid for an investigation, and we got a coverup.


26 posted on 08/13/2005 5:02:40 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: jwalsh07
They sent people scurrying yesterday to sift through their notes. Translation; DAMAGE CONTROL

I'm wondering if GORElick was given the task!

27 posted on 08/13/2005 5:03:22 AM PDT by johnny7 (“I like ya, Lloyd. I always liked ya. You were always the best of 'em.”)
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To: jimbo123; All
I have some questions about this whole Goreleck situation. I apologize if they have already been asked and answered, but I am just now getting into this.

Where does Goreleck (or any other assisatant attorney general) get the legal authority to set policy and enact regulations dealing with national security issues? One would think that Reno and/or Clinton would have had to have signed-off on this wall that Gorelick created between Dept. Defense Intel and the FBI, particularly since the Dept. of Defense is not part of the Dept. of Justice.

If Goreleck had the power to unilaterally create this wall, why didn't Ashcroft remove the wall after President Bush was sworn in alamost 9 months before 09.11?

Is the "Gorelick Wall" still on the books today, and if so, why?

28 posted on 08/13/2005 5:03:56 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: dennisw
We musn't think of staff members as young, eager beavers.....or get them confused with Senate and House interns.

Staff members, especially those culled for work on specially-appointed or temporary commissions are generally professional government trough-slurpers, i.e. attorneys, hardened former or on-leave bureaucrats, sabattical academics, "consultants" (translated: out-of-work educated losers) and the like.

These staffs can attain great power because they can influence the too-lazy or too-busy commission members, or hide pertinent material from them if they want to.

Leni

29 posted on 08/13/2005 5:05:50 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Labyrinthos
And it wasn't just "The Wall". Toon never rescinded EO 12333, the ban on assassination. That was ever satisfactorily addressed in the commission report, either.
30 posted on 08/13/2005 5:06:23 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

ever=never


31 posted on 08/13/2005 5:06:48 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: RedEyeJack

The problem is there is a razor thing difference from an actual cover up and being total idiots.


32 posted on 08/13/2005 5:07:16 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: mewzilla

OK, but then , has our President recinded EO 12333 and if not, why not?


33 posted on 08/13/2005 5:08:07 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: hadaclueonce

thing=thin, it was a long night


34 posted on 08/13/2005 5:08:40 AM PDT by hadaclueonce (shoot low, they are riding Shetlands.....)
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To: Peach
 

"While the Republicans are (place some nasty verb here), a clinton is working hard for the people"


HILLARY'S TRIPLE PLAY
the clinton putsch + filegate + the gorelick wall



While it is true that The Gorelick Wall was the convenient device of a cowardly self-serving president, The Wall's aiding and abetting of al Qaeda was largely incidental....

The Wall was engineered primarily to protect a corrupt self-serving president. The metastasis of al Qaeda and 9/11 were simply the cost of doing business, clinton-style.

Further confirmation that [the Wall was cover for clinton corruption]:

  • Gorelick's failure to disclose the fact that she authored the memo that was the efficient cause of 911

  • Gorelick's surreal presence on the 911 commission investigating Gorelick's Justice Department, a maneuver that effectively removes from the universe of witnesses a central witness, Gorelick, even as it uniquely positions a central player, Gorelick, to directly shape the commission's conclusions. (Is there any question which two people are responsible for Gorelick's insertion on the commission?)

Conversely, that it never occurred to anyone on the commission that Gorelick's flagrant conflict of interest renders her presence on the commission beyond farce calls into question the commission's judgment if not its integrity. Washington's mutual protection racket writ large, I suspect....

Once the clintons' own U.S. attorneys were in place, once the opposition was disemboweled by the knowledge that their raw FBI files had been in the possession of the clintons, once domestic law enforcement was effectively blinded to foreign data by Gorelick's Wall, the clintons were free to methodically and seditiously and with impunity auction off America's security, sovereignty and economy to the highest foreign bidder.

Reverse Gorelick
Mia T, 4.15.04
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35 posted on 08/13/2005 5:10:01 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: dennisw

You are welcome.

This commission was not established to get to the bottom of anything it was designed to conceal what was at the bottom.


36 posted on 08/13/2005 5:10:09 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Labyrinthos
I read on an earlier post that most folks inside the Beltway knew that Gorelick was pretty much running DoJ and that Reno was mostly a figurehead after she "took the heat" for Waco.

Ashcroft's appointment was held up in committee for months.

I think the Patriot Act did away with the Gorelick Wall.
37 posted on 08/13/2005 5:10:54 AM PDT by hotshu
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To: Labyrinthos

There is no Gorelick wall today. 9-11 changed a lot of things...President Bush and his team saw to that.

(It was not a law on the books, but some sort of regulation imposed by her, I believe. She might have pretended she was interpreting a law, and the wall was the result of her interpretation of it.) So if not a law passed by Congress, it could not survive in perpetuity just because it was put there by a Justice Dept. bigwig in a previous administration.

As for your question about procedures in the Dept. after Ashcroft finally got on board, and after his Deputies finally got on board - their confirmations happened quite late in the scheme of things I believe - I cannot answer that, but likely someone else can.

Did Reno and Clinton sign off on Gorelick's wall? I think we don't know and would like to know that.


38 posted on 08/13/2005 5:14:35 AM PDT by txrangerette
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To: jimbo123

I was watching FoxNews earlier this morning and happened to watch the usual weekend exchange between Ellen Ranting Ratner and Jim Pinkerton. [I try to avoid those two whenever possible, but accidents happen and I turned on the TV too early this morning. But I digress.......]

'Rantner', surprisingly, was right on. She was saying the 'problem' was a failure of agency communications.

DING DING DING We have a winner.

Disappointingly, Pinkerton failed to take advantage of that admission and rambled an incoherent excuse of a lack of policy as early as 2000.

===

Pinkerton should have taken Rantner's admission of the failure of agency communications and used Rantner's own words against her to drive the point down the court and make an easy and obvious score. It would have been a slam-dunk to bring up the Gorelick Wall.

Pinkerton wasn't up to the task. Rantner gave him the gun and even gave him the bullet. Pinkerton dropped it on his foot.


39 posted on 08/13/2005 5:17:38 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Ben Chad
It's the stench of... COVERUP: Chapter One - 'The First, Clumsy Lies'
40 posted on 08/13/2005 5:17:40 AM PDT by johnny7 (“I like ya, Lloyd. I always liked ya. You were always the best of 'em.”)
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