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Without Internet, U.S. Would Be a “Fascist State”
National Review Online ^ | August 11, 2005 | Byron York

Posted on 08/11/2005 3:28:03 PM PDT by neverdem

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To: neverdem
Image hosted by Photobucket.com said the silly cow who gets more face time on the LSM every day than the President...
61 posted on 08/11/2005 5:07:43 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

Thanks,I knew I read it but it was early this morning and I am never sure unless I have some coffee in me!


62 posted on 08/11/2005 5:07:58 PM PDT by calex59 (If you have to take me apart to get me there, then I don't want to go!)
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To: neverdem
She is right of course. If for the internet we would have lying liberals in office. The internet overcame lies and brought us the truth.
63 posted on 08/11/2005 5:35:12 PM PDT by mountainlyons (alienated vet)
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To: mhking

PWNED by Michael Moore.


64 posted on 08/11/2005 5:36:22 PM PDT by KStorm (I'll bet Karl Marx would like some of that opium by now.)
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To: lolhelp

I think she wants to get arrested, so she can cry, that she is being persecuted by the President.

I think you are 100% correct. And possibly she wishes secret service would shoot at her. Then she and her rapid lefty friends could really have more attention.


65 posted on 08/11/2005 5:36:41 PM PDT by LoudRepublicangirl (loudrepublicangirl)
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To: neverdem

OK. So, Cindy Sheehan is upset that her son died and expects Bush to.......bring him back? The logic of ending the War in Iraq because Cindy Sheehan's son died is directly connected to the same logic that proves her son is more valuable than any other.


66 posted on 08/11/2005 5:37:30 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: combat_boots

Transcript by me from the first part of the conference call...I just can't do any more, it's sickening to me...

Joe Trippi: First of all thank you all for showing up on today’s call, this is a real important blog call uh, uh, for you all to come for to give Cindy to uh, give you an update and uh let you know what actions can be taken to help uh, it’s really important’
I want to make two things clear, one is the reason the call’s being recorded is so that it, we can pod cast it and put it up as MP3 lateron that’s the reason the operator informed you of that… the second thing is at the end of Cindy’s talk is that we’ll open up the lines for Q&A so right now it’s in listen only so we don’t have any cross talk while she’s taking and if you can all like release the lines for Q&A if every, who is not asking a question mute your phones and un mute it to ask the question so again we don’t have that crosstalk problem.

I’m happy uh, er uh, to be co-hosting the call, Joe Trippi from Joertippi.com, with bob fertig of, uh Demokrats.com and Jody Evans of Code Pink. With that I’ll turn it over to Bob,

BOB—I’m here as co-founder of afterdowningstreet.org (JT “h I’m sorry) and we built a new site for Cindy last week at meetwithcindy.org. We’re overwhelmed with traffic but we’re blooging there on the tremendous work that shes doing and the help shes getting from people all over the country and the tremendous effort from allies like code poing and milfams speak out and veterans for peace that are working with her and this is uh, Cindy is making history and she’s also leading a movement, she’s up against the adversity of the weather and some hostile forces in the media, I’m sure you’ve all read about that, I’m sure you’ve see her answers to those questions and we can get into that more in detail.

Now let me just introduce Cindy. We worked with Cindy last, in uh last June when she testified in Congress at John Conyer’s hearings on the after, Downing Street minutes when she was forced into a basement room, but uh, Cindy’s been carrying on this crusade for a year now, this is nothing new for Cindy, she’s finally being heard.

Cindy Shaheen: Hi everybody, thankyou so much for everything everybody’s doing. I am so overwhelmed and amazed at the support this is getting, and all of the um, I really think it’s a miracle, I think it was very serendipidous that I had this idea and (Garbled) and you know what I attribute it to I attribute it to the internet and the blogosphere as they? got everything out. You know Saturday night when I put it, when we put it out that the Secret Service was trying to intimidate us into leaving, it went all over the blogoshper and the internet and I just wanted everybody to know that if something happened to us it would have probably been the secret service and and so and they knew that, you know, they watch the blogs and the stuff too. So this is something that can’t be ignored and they can’t ignore us and they can’t put us down and um, like I said this is truly amazing and thank God for the internet or we wouldn’t know anyting and we would already be a Fascist state. And you know, our government is run by one party, every level and the main stream media is uh propaganda tool for the government and we didn’t have the internet, none of us whould really know what was truly going on and I have, I have said since my son died and the elections, you know the elections Quote-Unquote that happened in November that it’s we’re the people that
Have to cause the change. I never got involved berfoe Casey was killed because I ddin’t think that one person could make a difference but one person can’t make a difference but one person with millions of people behind her can make a difference. And really from the bottom of my heart, and deeper than that, I thank all of you.


67 posted on 08/11/2005 5:40:48 PM PDT by GRRRRR (Demorats, Terrorists...all the same to me...)
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To: neverdem

To paraphrase, has this woman, at last, no shame?


68 posted on 08/11/2005 5:41:33 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Beelzebubba

We agree...the Internet is a great tool of freedom. Distributed reporting, distributed opinions, and distributed dispersal have made the Internet crucial. We must never barter away its freedom. It would be like shutting down Ben Franklin in the 1770s.


69 posted on 08/11/2005 5:44:10 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Mmmmmmm! Mmmmmmm! Good!)
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To: Freebird Forever
Without Internet the Second Amendment, U.S. Would Be a "Fascist State" If I was made to choose between firearms or my computer, the decision would be an easy one.

You can have my computer once you pry my cold dead hands from my gun...

70 posted on 08/11/2005 6:01:52 PM PDT by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: pepperhead
Right if it wasn't for the internet Dan Rather would be down in Crawford right now interviewing that liar Cindy Sheehan.

And Air Force One would be flying around one overly botoxed Frenchman.

71 posted on 08/11/2005 6:04:06 PM PDT by riri
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To: neverdem
Thank God for the Internet, or we wouldn't know anything, and we would already be a fascist state.

She's right, the Nazis (Socialists) in the socialist press would disseminate all the information and we wouldn't know how wrong and screwed this lady is.

72 posted on 08/11/2005 6:43:18 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: mhking
There are only three things that would prompt her to leave, she said: "a good meeting with the president, the end of August, or I get arrested."

Bush would be a fool to meet with her. The police would be fools to arrest her (that's what she really wants). By the end of August the MSM will have moved on to their next useful idiot.....

73 posted on 08/11/2005 10:12:29 PM PDT by freebilly (Go Manitowoc Bandits!)
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To: neverdem

Article Launched: 06/24/2004 06:00:00 AM

Bush, Sheehans share moments
By David Henson/Staff Writer



Since learning in April that their son, Army Spc. Casey Sheehan, had been killed in Iraq, life has been everything but normal for the Sheehan family of Vacaville.
Casey's parents, Cindy and Patrick, as well as their three children, have attended event after event honoring the soldier both locally and abroad, received countless letters of support and fielded questions from reporters across the country.

"That's the way our whole lives have been since April 4," Patrick said. "It's been surreal."

But none of that prepared the family for the message left on their answering machine last week, inviting them to have a face-to-face meeting with President George W. Bush at Fort Lewis near Seattle.

Surreal soon seemed like an understatement, as the Sheehans - one of 17 families who met Thursday with Bush - were whisked in a matter of days to the Army post and given the VIP treatment from the military. But as their meeting with the president approached, the family was faced with a dilemma as to what to say when faced with Casey's commander-in-chief.

"We haven't been happy with the way the war has been handled," Cindy said. "The president has changed his reasons for being over there every time a reason is proven false or an objective reached."

The 10 minutes of face time with the president could have given the family a chance to vent their frustrations or ask Bush some of the difficult questions they have been asking themselves, such as whether Casey's sacrifice would make the world a safer place.

But in the end, the family decided against such talk, deferring to how they believed Casey would have wanted them to act. In addition, Pat noted that Bush wasn't stumping for votes or trying to gain a political edge for the upcoming election.

"We have a lot of respect for the office of the president, and I have a new respect for him because he was sincere and he didn't have to take the time to meet with us," Pat said.

Sincerity was something Cindy had hoped to find in the meeting. Shortly after Casey died, Bush sent the family a form letter expressing his condolences, and Cindy said she felt it was an impersonal gesture.

"I now know he's sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis," Cindy said after their meeting. "I know he's sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he's a man of faith."

The meeting didn't last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son's sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.

While meeting with Bush, as well as Sen. John McCain, R-Arizona, was an honor, it was almost a tangent benefit of the trip. The Sheehans said they enjoyed meeting the other families of fallen soldiers, sharing stories, contact information, grief and support.

For some, grief was still visceral and raw, while for others it had melted into the background of their lives, the pain as common as breathing. Cindy said she saw her reflection in the troubled eyes of each.

"It's hard to lose a son," she said. "But we (all) lost a son in the Iraqi war."

The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.

For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.

For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.

"That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together," Cindy said.

David Henson can be reached at dixon@thereporter.com.


74 posted on 08/12/2005 3:47:43 AM PDT by conservativecorner (It's a cult of death and submission to fanatics Larry!!)
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To: Owl558
That's right guys, bemoaning our "fascist" state, hating Christians, and calling everyone who disagrees with you a stupid redneck is the way to regain the White House...

This statement caught my eye, because it is not an exaggeration in the least. I've had several internet "discussions" on other boards and have been called "stupid redneck" almost every time. I doubt that anyone who ever met me in person would ever think of calling me that, but when these people see text on the internet that disagrees with them, they immediately assume a specific image. Of course, I always picture them as bug-eyed, crack-smoking hippies, so maybe we're even.
75 posted on 08/12/2005 8:28:25 AM PDT by fr_freak
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To: fr_freak

"I've had several internet "discussions" on other boards and have been called "stupid redneck" almost every time."

Dude, I live in California and hear this "redneck" thing constantly. It is far easier to knock down a straw-man than it is the real thing. The left has constructed a stereotype of conservatives and simply revert to form when engaging in debate. My neighbor had a particularly good time calling republicans "fascists" until I called her on it one day - She was unable to even define what fascism was. "Fascism" and "Redneck" are simply propaganda cups that the left fills with their venom.


76 posted on 08/12/2005 8:53:24 AM PDT by Owl558 (Pwease pardan my speling)
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Dude, I live in California too. Of course, I live in a part of California where there actually are a lot of rednecks, but that's by choice. I'm originally from the Bay Area, but I just can't stand all of the left-wing freaks and hippies (and the traffic, and the crowds). I'll take rednecks over hippies 7 days a week and twice on Sundays. There's a local station here that carries channel 2 news from Oakland and I actually get pissed off just watching they way they portray their "news" stories.


77 posted on 08/12/2005 10:06:34 AM PDT by fr_freak
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