Posted on 08/11/2005 1:07:33 PM PDT by smokeman
Sorry, I somehow missed that you had posted the same flyer.
Makes you wonder if she ever thought that the picture could have been the guy who killed her son?
OK, I realise it probably is just someone dressed up like her son's killer.
It is important to have input from people who see other mothers who are suffering now. That perspective is useful to understand possible motivations for this woman.
I'd rather deal with what she says without dealing with WHY she is saying it, but I have not experienced a loss of any great magnitude in my life and therefore cannot directly relate.
That's what it looks like, Victory. She's crazy with grief and the libs got to her.
< Yeah, that's the ticket, traitors, who are "grieving" and dishonoring the memory of the son they're supposedly "grieving" for, should be excused. >
Heck, I agree. I think she is dishonoring her son's memory also. I don't like anti-war idiots any more than the rest of us, but that doesn't mean she isn't grieving. I'm not excusing her actions at all, but the real scum to me are the ones fanning the flames of her bile.
My maternal grandmother's eldest child died from leukemia, around his 7th birthday. I know what that does to a family, for generations.
And yes, people go through death, mourning, and grieving in different ways; however, Cindy's words and actions are now so far away from actual grief, that you must discount "grieving"! What mother, who is GRIEVING, goes on to support the very people who actually killed her son ? Cindy has. Think about that.
Okay, I listened to this abomination. In case nobody has given you the site, it is, I believe, jodie@codepinkalert.
"MEDIA DUPE or MEDIA TOOL would accomplish the same thing.."
I agree. Remember they can crop "media" out of the picture and then you look like the bad guy.
I give up. What part of I-find-her-behavior-disgusting-too don't you understand?...and, yes, I see how stupid she is being. Geeze.
Hey...I get it; I really do. I was just adding some personal anecdotes.
Best effort by ear transcript,
Not making it up, I promise.
Will work up the part with the congresswoman.
Its really speciaL.
Someone else want to do the boring front part?
Heh.
Enjoy.
Later
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16:16 Hi Im Liza Sabateur (sp?)from culture kitchen. I came back from the first womans bloggers conference, that happened in Santa Clara California about two weeks ago, and I am really touched by what you said about how one person may not be able to chhange the world,but one person with a million other people, especially through the internet can change the world,how did you get involved with blogs, because I think,
especially with Mommy Bloggers
this would be umm you know, an inspiration.
(17:07)(Cindy)You know what...I still dont really understand,I still dont really understand much about whatblogs are but, I know, but you all probably know that I just didnt come out of the woodwork last saturday and start this, I have been working for peace, Ive been... everything that I write goes out on the internet and everything, and I know the downing street memos and the daily kose blogged lot about me but I really don't know what they are.
(giggles)So people at the daily Kose like kind of encouraged me to start my own blog there
(womans voice) Fantastic
(Cindy)and uhhh...I did not imagine it to be a daily one,you know I wanted it to be
more like a weekly one. But it was so important, that I just want to keep you guys updated,
and I know that they dont have the usual style and heart that the rest of mine do, but I think Ijust want to let the rest of the people of the world know what is coing on out here.
(Womans Voice) Fantastic, thank you
18:11 (Male voice).Cindy, Dave johnson from seeing the forestIf you do actually meet the president, what are you going to aske him what are you going to say?
(Cindy)I am going to ask him what the noble cause was that Casey died for, because I dont believe that a war of aggression against a country that was no threat to the United States of America is a noble cause...and I want him.. But i know what the reason what Dan Sokowsky (SP?) said is the noble cause...is the real reason. I want to ask him if it is such a noble cause ahh does he encourage his daughters to enlist
(female laughter)
and take the place of some soldiers who might want to come home..because we have stop loss and they are held hostage over there
and another thing I want him to do is to stop saying that we have to honor the sacrifices of the fallen by completing the mission, because number one he has no idea what the mission is
and it keeps changing every day, they are building bases
(unintelligible)(19:05) in Sacramento California, they intend on never getting out of Iraq and so..ummm the only way they can honor my sons sacrifice is by bringing the troops home.
(19:25) (Peter Dowd(?)...Cindy You are doing a phenoomenal job...I just want to quickly say, I dont want to put a damper on this, but
Watching Msnbc and CNN is still leading with Natalie Holloway and stories like that..thats like the protests last year and the year before and the year before that, its like a tree in the forest, we get all excited talking about it,but if they dont report it your thoughts on them not making this into what we really think it is
Cindy:(19:58)"I had four interviews with NBC,they either...two of em cancelled and two of em just didnt show up,and you know they don't want it to be the story..
(Male voice)Exactly
(Cindy)... a lot of people have a lot of at stake keeping this occupation going the money and we all know who owns NBC, and I dont want to accuse anybody, but if they were truly reporting the news effectively they would be reporting this, because this..trust me this is a much bigger story than Natalie Holloway, which is a tragedy for one family, but what we are trying to do here is save the...millions of families from going through tragedy.
(new male voice)Excuse me for interrupting, but I believe the critical mass is definately what we are reaching, and it will blow past these guys..
(mmmm agreement noises)
(fEMALE VOICE)I do hae to point out that the New York Times has a lead editorial in The Times
Oh fantaSTIC(female voice)
(Cindy 21:05) it is getting a lot of mainstream attention I do have to point out that is most gratifying, that this is putting the war back on the front pages and back in the news where it belongs,and it belongs there everyday, whether a grieving mother is sitting outside in front of a ranch in Crawford or not you know we have to realise we are a nation at war, and if it was not for the internet we would not know what was going on over there.
21:39(female voice)One of the things I wanted to mention, I'm a poplog(?)and I have done a lot of protesting with police, and the thing I have discovered is if you dont move,its interesting its like a predator,they cant...they dont hurt you, if you simply stand still... for all the protesters if you pick your place and refuse to move it will really help....
Cindy:okay I am just going to sit my butt down on the ground if they tell me to go, because this is America, this is every inch of America is a freedom of speech and a freedom to peacefully assemble zone,
(Female)Yeah, there you go..
(Cindy)and if you want me to stop they will just have to carry me out of there.
(New female voice)Cindy this is Judy from London...I just had to tell you you were beautiful in the Gaurdian this morning., and I am getting emails from people in London telling me they saw it, and i just came from a global resistance meeting with two people, and they tell me they let me know have access in 60 countries, and whatever I Want to get out i can to 60 countries, the internet is fabulous,
(laughter)
And I cant help but remembering when the plan was you to be in London today, and when you found out that was cancelled you responded with, "where are our leaders" well I know exactly where are leaders are, you are our leader so ahhh we love you we just love you to pieces, and we are doing what we can here people are here to support you and we are trying to get the word to you about what that support is,I emailed you today, but didn't get through, do you have a suggestion about how we can get through to you?
(woman)give out your email address
23:34 Umm..send it to jodie at (unintelligible)alert.org
(Male voice)we also have (lost)cindy@Gmail.com
yeah meetwithcindy@gmail.com, we can get it to them too. Thank you cindy and thank all of you for attending the call, I just want to remind everybody that its meetwithcindy.org
if, the more we ahhh...there will be action items on there, and things people can do and I thank Bob Furtek (sp?)for getting that site up and it is being hammered with tradffic, ...
thanks to cindy...
(closing blather)
Go cindy..
many voices
Joe this is melody from newshound (sp)
Is this call confidential, can we mention it in our posts?
Yeah you can blog it.
We can?
Okay, thank you.
We love you Cindy.
Okay guys, take care now.
Bye
Thank, you
Hello"?
Operator?
Yeah Hello?
(loud noise)
end of tape.
Okay I stand corrected. She IS crazy but it seems that at one point she had positive things to say about the President.
She has ALWAYS been an anti-war nutjob and she never was a GOPer or a Bush supporter.
Thank you for transcribing son much of the phone call. It's almost worse to read, than hear.
Transcript..Part one.
Working through this. This part has statement, including her accusation of being threatened by the secret service.
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This conference call is being recorded, I will pass it on to Mr Joe Trippi, you may begin
(Trippi) First of all thank you all for showing up on todays call, this is a real important blog call
ahh and for Cindy to come on and give you an update, its really important.I really want to make two things clear, one is the reason the call is being recorded is so that we can podcast it and put it up as MP3 later on, that is the reason the operator informed you that. The second thing is at the ahh end of ahh Cindy's talk we will open up the lines for Q&A, so right now its listen only so we don't have any crosstalk while she is talking, and if you can all release the lines for Q&A, anyone who is not talking just mute thier phone, so we dont have that crosstalk problem.
(1:22)I'm happy to be co-hosting the call, Joe Trippi from joetrippi.com with Bob Furtek (sp?)of democrats.com and Jodie Evans of Code Pink. Ahh and with that I'll turn it over to Bob who will introduce Cindy and we'll be on our way. Bob?
(Bob 1:41)I'm here at (unintelligible)downingstreet.org
(Trippi)Oh I,m sorry...
(Bob)And we built a new site for Cindy last week at meetwithcindy.org,we are overwhelmed with traffic, but we are blogging there on the ahh tremendous work that she is doing and the help she is getting from people all over the country, ahh and the tremendous ahh effort she is getting from allies like Code Pink, and Military Families Speak Out, and Veterans for Peace that are working with her, and this is ahhh, Cindy is making history, and but she is also leading a movement, and she is up against the adversity of the weather,and some hostile forces in the media, I am sure you have all read about that, I am sure you have seen the answers to those questions, and we can get into that in more detail. Now let me just introduce Cindy.
We worked with Cindy in June when she testified in Congress at John Conyers hearings on the Downing Street minutes, ahh when she was forced into a basement room, ahh but Cindy has been carrying on this crusade for a year now, this is nothing new for Cindy, ahhh but she is finally being heard. Cindy?
(Cindy 2:47)Umm, Hi everybody, umm thank you so much for everything everybody is doing,I am so overwhelmed and amazed at all the support this is getting, and all of the...ummm I really think it is a miracle, I think it was very umm serendipitous that I had this idea and it just mushroomed you know what I attribute it to the internet and the blogosphere that got everything out.
You know umm Saturday night when I put it out, when we put it out that the secret service was trying to intimidate us into leaving, it went all over the blogosphere and the internet and I just wanted everybody to know that if something happened to us it would probably have been the secret service, (3:30)and they knew that, you know they watch the blogs and the stuff too, and you know this is something that can't be ignored, and they can't ignore us and they can't shut us down. And umm like I said this is truly amazing, and thank God, thank God for the internet or we wouldn't know anything and we would already be a fascist state.
And you know our government is run by one party every level and the mainstream media is a propaganda tool for the government and if we didn't have the internet none of us would really know what was truly going on, and I have said since my friend died, and the elections, you know the elections, quote unquote,that happened in November that it is we the people that have to cause the change, and I never got involved before Casey was killed because I didn't think that one person can make a difference,but one person can't make a difference, but one person with millions of people behind her can make a difference.
And really, from the bottom of my heart,and deeper than that, I thank all of you.
Thats all.
Oh dear. The Libbies have a rookie doing their spokesmaan-ing. This has got to be hurting them. Badly.
THANKS for the transcriptions, pending! I couldn't get the player to play.
Bump!
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