Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Nightline Tonight Mon., March 14, 2005
That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
Love
Cindy Sheehan
March 15, 2005
To Whom it May Concern:
Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.
[SNIP]
I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.
And such a village, is NOT what the person I was replying to, when you poked your nose into things, wants to live in, your posts are moot; if not totally inane and besides the point.
:-)
You are really dense. My point was that they were very kind and hospitable. They set up for me a nice place to sleep etc ... I stayed there for couple weeks a few times.
These people worked hard during the harvest (I was helping them a little but as a city kid I was rather clumsy) , they had to wake up early to feed animals. They had plenty of time for socialising when out of season. I would say they were quite happy.
They live the way their ancestors lived for centuries. Now it is all modern - concrete, bricks, electricity, TV, indoor plumbing. They are not less happy and not more happy than before.
How about the right to an education, hold property, and divorce? I guess you don't see those as "rights". Yeah, I'm insane. Can you discuss something without going off the deep-end, Mr. Hill? Or is that just not that much fun?
I lived for a time in a rural setting with no running water.
And I drank from a well into which I lowered a bucket (occassional floating bugs and all)--albeit our well was not as deep as yours.
We had an outhouse and no electricity.
(We did have toilet paper, however.)
And the time is soon coming, I hope, when I may be so happy again.
This person is illiterate.
Stone age living primitive peoples are also "happy", until they are exposed to the modern world. Then, they want what they have never known before. The reverse, with few exceptions ( like the unibomber ),is NOT true. Yet, the poster I was debating, wants everyone to leave the cities and suburban areas of this country and move to ISLOLATED areas and live a preindustial age , in order to deter terrorists from using WMDs here. That whole proposition is ridiculous and ludicrous; as are your posts to me!
Just do it! Such a life can't cost much. And without electricity, you will no longer be able to be on line, thus making lots of people happy. :-)
Most of the comments I'd seen were from Freepers who didn't link to any information confirming it. Someone has now.
You need to read more and post less. Then you too, would know what the rest of us do. :-)
Don't bother me with any more of your moral lessons.
I suppose it was just a matter of time before she showed herself to be an anti-semite. Makes sense.
No problem.
Jihadist money. her family has publically disavowed her on Drudge..
Somebody once had a story that went thusly.. The Messiah arrived, and a crowd asked "Is this your first time here, or have you once been here before?" He replied: "I can't remember.."
That's funny. She doesn't look bluish..
Alexander, THAT IS ME! THAT IS PRECISELY WHERE I STAND!
Does anyone here really read what I post? Or, at the first detection of my utter disgust with the way this administration has analyzed, planned and executed their curious response to the attack on our nation are you all thrown into some sort spasm of attack?
Because I so passionately despise the mysterious maneuvers of Bush/Rummy/Cheney I am castigated as Hitler, an anti-semite, a leftie, etc. etc. ad nauseum.
Well, so be it. These three have done their best to shroud this Jihadist War in a cloak of ambiguity from day one.
Why?
And, indeed, why do you folks not question their bizarre tactics, much less be outraged by them.
Shortly after Sept 11, 2001 we knew who was behind the vicious attack and anyone with the good sense God gave him knew what we had to do. GO AFTER OUR ENEMY, SEEK HIM OUT, AND PUNISH HIM SO MERCILOUSLY THAT THE LESSON WOULD STAND FOR THESE BARBARIANS FOR DECADES.
And, it at first appeared that we would do just that when we rushed into Afghanistan and bought ourselves some fighters. But soon the murk began to form .... it was to be the first war ever against a "tactic" instead of an enemy! Islam, our fearless leader declared, was a "religion of peace", and well, uh, the Jihadists were Muslims, so I guess we had to fight "terror".
Osama bin Laden was apparently too small a target for the "shock and awe" team (though we still are no closer to punishing him that we were four long years ago). So Bush, at his first opportunity, announced a BEVY of enemies ... Iraq, Iran, North Korea (for God's sake!) the "Axis of Evil" (slogans 'r us). Did this seem surreal to only me?
There was a lull between our action in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq while we tried to gather together an Army. For we did not immediately and still do not have sufficient forces to even deal effectively with a nation that was economically and militarily on its knees WHEN WE INVADED!
Yet here was (in my eyes only, I guess) this little under accomplisher from Midland TX shaking his fist at most of the ME and southeast Asia.
Suddenly the guy that started all this was forgotten (put on the shelf?). And, GWB proceeded to ... what .. spit in his hand? .. throw a dart at the globe? Well anyhow he decides the real problem lies with a tired old secularist and his worn out country.
And with irrationality like this on display we expected to form a coalition like Pop did? Yeah, in your dreams! I think that failure was purposeful, not accidental BTW, but that's a rant for another day.?
And this HAS turned into a rant. Sorry.
Bottom line .... When my country is attacked, you damn well better believe I am in favor of a war .... vigorously pursued against a specific enemy having defined clear cut objectives and clearly defined parameters (nation building, if any, to be done by the "world community").
I oppose insanity, waste, and lies. Nothing threatening, even for the perpetually paranoid.
I agree with Sheehan. This was is about Israel. Defending Israel IS defending the U.S.
It was attacked. Directly. On 9/11.
It hasn't been attacked since 9/11 because we've taken the fight to the enemy on the enemy's turf.
Sheehan's son died fighting the enemy over there so she and you wouldn't have to fight the enemy here.
You should thank God that Bush, not Gore, was in charge on 9/11. You should double the thanks that Kerry isn't in charge now.
Then you must have cheered the toppling of Saddam Hussein's reign of horror.
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