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To: Alexander Rubin
And then, we have people who saw the threat for what it was. War is never good, but it's not necessarily the worse thing either. The consequences of not fighting, or capitulating are far worse than fighting.

Alexander, THAT IS ME! THAT IS PRECISELY WHERE I STAND!

Does anyone here really read what I post? Or, at the first detection of my utter disgust with the way this administration has analyzed, planned and executed their curious response to the attack on our nation are you all thrown into some sort spasm of attack?

Because I so passionately despise the mysterious maneuvers of Bush/Rummy/Cheney I am castigated as Hitler, an anti-semite, a leftie, etc. etc. ad nauseum.

Well, so be it. These three have done their best to shroud this Jihadist War in a cloak of ambiguity from day one.

Why?

And, indeed, why do you folks not question their bizarre tactics, much less be outraged by them.

Shortly after Sept 11, 2001 we knew who was behind the vicious attack and anyone with the good sense God gave him knew what we had to do. GO AFTER OUR ENEMY, SEEK HIM OUT, AND PUNISH HIM SO MERCILOUSLY THAT THE LESSON WOULD STAND FOR THESE BARBARIANS FOR DECADES.

And, it at first appeared that we would do just that when we rushed into Afghanistan and bought ourselves some fighters. But soon the murk began to form .... it was to be the first war ever against a "tactic" instead of an enemy! Islam, our fearless leader declared, was a "religion of peace", and well, uh, the Jihadists were Muslims, so I guess we had to fight "terror".

Osama bin Laden was apparently too small a target for the "shock and awe" team (though we still are no closer to punishing him that we were four long years ago). So Bush, at his first opportunity, announced a BEVY of enemies ... Iraq, Iran, North Korea (for God's sake!) the "Axis of Evil" (slogans 'r us). Did this seem surreal to only me?

There was a lull between our action in Afghanistan and the invasion of Iraq while we tried to gather together an Army. For we did not immediately and still do not have sufficient forces to even deal effectively with a nation that was economically and militarily on its knees WHEN WE INVADED!

Yet here was (in my eyes only, I guess) this little under accomplisher from Midland TX shaking his fist at most of the ME and southeast Asia.

Suddenly the guy that started all this was forgotten (put on the shelf?). And, GWB proceeded to ... what .. spit in his hand? .. throw a dart at the globe? Well anyhow he decides the real problem lies with a tired old secularist and his worn out country.

And with irrationality like this on display we expected to form a coalition like Pop did? Yeah, in your dreams! I think that failure was purposeful, not accidental BTW, but that's a rant for another day.?

And this HAS turned into a rant. Sorry.

Bottom line .... When my country is attacked, you damn well better believe I am in favor of a war .... vigorously pursued against a specific enemy having defined clear cut objectives and clearly defined parameters (nation building, if any, to be done by the "world community").

I oppose insanity, waste, and lies. Nothing threatening, even for the perpetually paranoid.

957 posted on 08/11/2005 3:10:45 PM PDT by iconoclast (Wastin' away again in hearts-and-minds'ville.)
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I agree with Sheehan. This was is about Israel. Defending Israel IS defending the U.S.


958 posted on 08/11/2005 4:06:11 PM PDT by AIPACspy
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To: iconoclast
When my country is attacked

It was attacked. Directly. On 9/11.

It hasn't been attacked since 9/11 because we've taken the fight to the enemy on the enemy's turf.

Sheehan's son died fighting the enemy over there so she and you wouldn't have to fight the enemy here.

You should thank God that Bush, not Gore, was in charge on 9/11. You should double the thanks that Kerry isn't in charge now.

959 posted on 08/11/2005 4:12:41 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: iconoclast
I oppose insanity, waste, and lies.

Then you must have cheered the toppling of Saddam Hussein's reign of horror.

960 posted on 08/11/2005 4:14:29 PM PDT by JCEccles
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To: iconoclast

Well, in that case I owe and offer you an apology. A lot of people here believe that in times of trouble, you get behind the leaders willing to do something about it, flaws and all. Including yours truly.

The war could have been handled better but I believe it to be necessary. As do a lot of people here. And we are still chasing Osama, that terrorist mama. Also, I didn't call you an anti-semite, although I did suspect you of being a leftie. I'm sorry.

But passionate hate is kind of a warning sign for a lot of folks here, as I think you now understand. Noone here supports insanity, lies and waste (aside from a few DUmmie trolls). At most, people here will overlook it. And more likely only temporairily.


964 posted on 08/11/2005 5:39:05 PM PDT by Alexander Rubin (Octavius - You make my heart glad building thus, as if Rome is to be eternal.)
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