Posted on 08/10/2005 1:47:20 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: Fw: Nightline Tonight Mon., March 14, 2005
That was my son's unit. He was killed on that day 04/04/04. Here is a letter that I wrote to NightLine about the broadcast:
Love
Cindy Sheehan
March 15, 2005
To Whom it May Concern:
Imagine my distress when I turned Night Line on last night and I was confronted with the gory details of my son's murder in Sadr City, Baghdad, Iraq on 04/04/04. Imagine, also, my sorrow and rage at the side of the story that you presented to the American public.
[SNIP]
I was on the Night Line Townhall Meeting in Washington, DC on 01/27/05. After I spoke (which I think was a fluke), Ted Koppel dismissed me as being "emotional." First of all, how can I approach this discussion without emotions, MY SON WAS KILLED, AND KILLED FOR LIES? Second of all, that show was not fair and balanced and I think the conclusion "Should we stay" was foregone.
The show last night was also not fair and balanced. To see all the wives being interviewed who had not lost their husbands and to hear what "hard work" it is to be left behind when their husbands are at war. How hard to you think it is to have a child killed in an illegal and immoral war? In this "wonderful" group of families left behind, we had exactly ONE of the wives call us..she is Diane Rose who was my son's Colonel, Frank Rose's wife. The last time we heard from Diane was in October and we feel we have been left behind by anyone connected to the 2-5 Cavalry. Is support only given if your loved one stays alive? One wife was quoted as saying that Sundays were the hardest for the families left behind. My son was killed on Palm Sunday last year..how does anybody think Sundays are for my family?
Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel. My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel. Am I stupid? No, I know full-well that my son, my family, this nation, and this world were betrayed by a George Bush who was influenced by the neo-con PNAC agenda after 9/11. We were told that we were attacked on 9/11 because the terrorists hate our freedoms and democracy...not for the real reason, becuase the Arab-Muslims who attacked us hate our middle-eastern foreign policy. That hasn't changed since America invaded and occupied Iraq...in fact it has gotten worse.
It would be so amazing if your show would put me, or another parent who lost their child on who disagrees with the war and this administration: to have just an entire show..without presenting the false side of the debate. That would take a lot of courage and integrity. I hope your program will exhibit these qualities.
I also think that Mr. Koppel owes me an apology for the rude way I was treated on his show. After I expressed myself about the war being based on lies and that the troops should be brought home immediately because the war was based on lies, I was not thanked for my comments, or my son's sacrifice. He just said to keep the discussion away from emotions. Then, the wife of a soldier who was killed was allowed to speak and she praised the policies of this deplorable and despicable administration, and she was thanked and praised by the panel.
Sounds fair to me. And trust me, I'm Jewish and I don't like how easily 'anti-semite' is thrown around by some people. (Foxman, I'm looking your way. *shakes a fist*) I do think that Jews have historically gotten more than their fair share of misery from other people, though. And I think we're seeing a slight resurgence. Nothing too serious, though, so long as there are decent people who have learned to stand up for themselves and their friends and their morals and values. Which is why I love FR.
A country should always take care of its own national interests first, but it should protect its long term interests. Nor should it do anything grossly immoral. Also, for the record, I'm Canadian and we have 5 parties. Which effectively means we have 1 party which rules like tyrants and are never threatened because all the other votes are split and there's no other 'centrist' (by Canadian standards) party. Past a certain point, or with an apathetic or highly partisan population, more parties just hurts you. Look at Italy and Spain, which have tens of parties. I believe Italy has 50+ in fact.
Bill O'Reilly just reported that Cindy is posting messages on Michael Moore's web site.
Elementary my dear G32.
I did and would still support a vigorous war against Jihadist Muslims (possibly more vigorous than we are capable of at the moment) but I am and have been from day one been opposed to this tragic craziness in Iraq.
Yep .. here's a link
http://www.michaelmoore.com/mustread/index.php
The rant is fine. Actually, you probably know this already, but popular interest in the Kabbalah isn't new. There was a similar spate of gentile interest in the 19th century. I seem to remember Conan Doyle even worked it into one of the Sherlock Holmes stories.
Didn't say that at all. But Buchanan questions our entry into WW2 and has never met a former Nazi he didn't want to defend. He also 'jokingly' refers to President Bush's advisors as the 'Amen Corner', I wonder what that means?
Someone explain to me how the US is doing anything in Iraq that is of benefit to Israel. Use any brand of tin foil.
I could argue that Israel is immeasurably worse off then before.
"So why exactly are you taking this woman's side?
Elementary my dear G32."
If you are taking Sheehan (and Bin Laden's) side, where do you suggest Israel go when it/they leave Palestine?
Bin Laden--and presumably Sheehan--says "into the sea." What say you, deep thinker?
Your mistake, is that you either don't understand American foreign policy, or has a very twisted idea of what it is and what it is not.
Cindy Sheehan is posting on Michael Moore's web site. She is mouthing Code Pink and other subversives' propaganda.
Please don't. Her insanity may be contageous.
Nope...That would be a Paleocon...They're as rare as a white buffalo now days...
A paleo is a Barry Goldwater type...That would be anti-Nafta, Cafta, WTO and New World Order...No illegal alien amnesty for Paleocons...A whole different critter than Neocons.
I am suspicious. George Bush"marched into the rook" and he "trotted out some explanations." Sounds to me like because she hated Bush, everything she saw and heard was distorted by her attitude.
If we could only swap their geographic locations I'd be 100% with you! ;-)
Cindy backed out so he has another whackjob on to take her place. This woman met privately with President Bush.....he was respectful...he hugged her...but she is convinced that he doesn't care one bit about all the death and destruction HE caused. Oh, and the Iraqi people have no freedom...we're building military bases there....excuse me while I go bash my head against the wall....
Cindy backed out so O'Reilly decides to put up a clone of her. I turned it off.
"OK...who is THIS woman who O'Reilly has on? Elaine Chesterson. She sounds to me like she has been coopted by the same moonbat group."
I have no idea. Never watch BOR.
Then her story got very vague about what actually was said.
O'R is asking her more questions........
I'd sum up neocon by saying they seem socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
And I'd say they care less for the nation state and its borders and more for industrializing the entire world to make business more efficient.
To paraphrase Karl Marx (with whom the neocons seem to often bear a kind of resemblance) . . .
. . . the neocon motto might be,
"Buy from each country according to its industries, sell to each country according to its needs."
I suspect that some neocons see the nation state, like America, as an outdated concept, to be replaced by globalism.
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