ACLU vs. Boy Scouts of America

NEWSMAX.COM ^ | Saturday 6 August 2005 | Paul Weyrich

[Lady Jag]

Hi, Bob! Long time no see. Keep up the good work.

Why don't more people sue the ACLU?

[KC_for_Freedom]

My problem is not that they can find justification out side the constitution, there are plenty of libs writing cr*p about the poor athesist who has to stand and be painfully offended with another leading a group prayer. How about just standing and RESPECTING another's belief? Same goes for the Salute to the Flag of the US. If for some reason you do not want to salute the flag -- and there are reasonable as well as tratorous reasons -- just stand there and be respectful. If you are not a christian, (I am Jewish) you should note that the nativity scene represents a holy time for another religion and be respectful of this.

We are headed in an insane direction by the initial supreme court decision establishing the separation of church and state doctrine and the court only has to look at the ten commandments decision to see just how conflicted and far from logic they have brought us.

[Jay777]

PING!

[Diva Betsy Ross]

This makes me motivated to sell twice the amount of popcorn I would usually sell for our pack next month.

[Unicorn]

BTTT

[MudSlide]

It is time to yank the tax exempt status of churches and outfits like the ACLU

[Victoria Delsoul]

When the BSA finds itself in legal hot water because it wants its members to honor God, this is not the America that I knew growing up. In my youth, acknowledgement of our faith and our country's Judeo-Christian heritage was common and accepted practice. Our country has lost its moorings, and too many Americans of Christian and Jewish heritage willingly have abandoned the faith that held their forbearers in good stead.

A federal judge has told the Boy Scouts that belief is unacceptable because the government must be "neutral."

The ruling in this case reaffirms the need to place judges on the federal bench who are committed to interpreting the law, not actively rewriting it. The Pentagon's support of the Boy Scout Jamboree does not establish a religion and surely does not violate the First Amendment.

Thanks for the link as well.

[yankeedame]

WHY WE FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT

The Scoutmaster

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

You're welcome.

:)

[rockabyebaby]

ACLU never ceases to disgust me.

[Coleus]

I visited Rockwell's museum while vacationing in VT. one year.

[KC_for_Freedom]

Oh man, I had know idea Rockwell did so many great pictures, *wiping tears out of my eyes*

Thanks Yankeedame

KC, Eagle Scout and father of an Eagle Scout.

[Coleus]

The BSA is slowly going left these days. They are big into environmentalism and "low impact" camping, have dumbed down the BSA Handbook and made the requirements simpler. tons of pictures, compare and contrast one from today to a book from the 1960's. They took out stalking and tracking, animal tracks, tree identification. When I was a Scout we had to cook on wood fires started by ONLY 2 matches. Now they use propane stoves, that doesn't teach them about survival. They also put in an escape clause for certain requirements due to being classified "handicapped" with all the special ed. and ADHD classifications that's about 1/4 of most scouts.

They now are "looking" for women and minorities to serve on their boards and to be included in certain committees. In may councils, the wood badge course now has their token women and minorities as well as the silver beaver award, there always has to be just one.

I just hope they hold on to traditional values and not give in to the left on that.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Norman Rockwell is one of the most consistently underrated American artists, from an historical perspective.

Compare the crowds that are drawn to an exhibition of his work to those that attend the pseudo-artistic freak-shows routinely bankrolled by noveau riche, Eurotrash pond scum like Charles Saatchi.

I can't think of more vivid illustration of the enormous chasm in cultural values between the elites and the masses.

In this, as in so many other observations of modern society, Tom Wolfe was correct in his analysis.

[Fedora]

Thanks. A lost fact of history is that the ACLU was almost legally outlawed as a Communist front just before World War II, but Morris Ernst cut a deal with the FBI to purge the ACLU of known CP members and inform the government on left-wing activity in the legal community. At some point it's clear the ACLU reneged on this deal and the Communists were able to reassert their original influence in the organization--I would guess this probably happened with the rise of the Vietnam antiwar movement and the disintegration of the Cold War consensus. Today, I think you could make a good case that in the context of the War on Terror, the government should again review the ACLU's legal status. Likewise the National Lawyers Guild.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

The ACLU, NLG, Center for Constitutional Rights-one of the most Orwellian euphemisms that I've come across-all comprise the domestic branch of Al Qaeda.

They can't recruit the necessary cannon fodder here, and they're finding it impossible to penetrate the multi-layered defenses of our homeland security, so they use Marxist fifth columnists as the tip of their spear.

David Horowitz was prescient when he warned of a Red-Green alliance.

[Fedora]

Exactly, IMO.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/089526076X/qid=1123379915/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-2571581-0599066?v=glance&s=books

[Luke21]

The ACLU is an anti-American organization and should be denounced as such. We should find who contributes to them and boycott.

[Fedora]

Thanks! Looks like an interesting book. In my own researched I've noticed the left began forming ties with the PLO and related groups during the late 1960s. This led Martin Peretz to resign in protest from Ramparts.