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King David's Palace Is Found, Archaeologist Says
New York Times ^ | August 5, 2005 | STEVEN ERLANGER

Posted on 08/05/2005 11:51:57 AM PDT by West Coast Conservative

An Israeli archaeologist says she has uncovered in East Jerusalem what may be the fabled palace of the biblical King David. Her work has been sponsored by a conservative Israeli research institute and financed by an American Jewish investment banker who would like to prove that Jerusalem was indeed the capital of the Jewish kingdom described in the Bible.

Other scholars are skeptical that the foundation walls discovered by the archaeologist, Eilat Mazar, are David's palace. But they acknowledge that what she has uncovered is rare and important: a major public building from around the 10th century B.C., with pottery shards that date to the time of David and Solomon and a government seal of an official mentioned in the book of Jeremiah.

The discovery is likely to be a new salvo in a major dispute in biblical archaeology: whether the kingdom of David was of some historical magnitude, or whether the kings were more like small tribal chieftains, reigning over another dusty hilltop.

The find will also be used in the broad political battle over Jerusalem - whether the Jews have their origins here and thus have some special hold on the place, or whether, as many Palestinians have said, including the late Yasir Arafat, the idea of a Jewish origin in Jerusalem is a myth used to justify conquest and occupation.

Hani Nur el-Din, a Palestinian professor of archaeology at Al Quds University, said he and his colleagues considered biblical archaeology an effort by Israelis "to fit historical evidence into a biblical context." He added: "The link between the historical evidence and the biblical narration, written much later, is largely missing. There's a kind of fiction about the 10th century. They try to link whatever they find to the biblical narration. ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Israel; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bible; cary; christianity; david; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; godsgravesglyps; history; israel; jerusalem; judaism; kingdavid; palace; zionism
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To: Texans

Archeologists, after years of excavations in Israel, claim they have never found a single shard of physical evidence that Abraham, Moses, Saul, David or Solomon once existed. However, the Old Testament is an ancient archeological record with huge credibility, and I do believe the record. There have been asserted fraudulent claims about some recent finds (the ossuary of James, for example), but the record stands. I read Biblical Archeology as a way to keep up with progress in the effort to find more ancient evidences.


41 posted on 08/05/2005 12:34:45 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: West Coast Conservative

does this mean that the Jewish people in Iseral can kick the Palentians back to the lower part of Egypt where they should be???

I say leave Iseral ALONE!!!


42 posted on 08/05/2005 12:38:51 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: APRPEH

Of course, the only thing the NYT can think to do with this story is to get quotes from a bunch of Palestinians who have a strong vested interest in debunking the Bible. I'm surprised they didn't get quotes from Richard Dawkins and George Galloway, too. Just as a reminder, the Bible never says David built Jerusalem. He conquered the city when it was the capital of the Jebusites.


43 posted on 08/05/2005 12:44:03 PM PDT by Numidian Horse (Numidian Horse)
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To: TXBubba

"Palestine" is a myth..


44 posted on 08/05/2005 12:44:13 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: golch1979

actually, as you probably know, the city of David is in "arab east jerusalem" another MSM accepted without question "fact" which you are supposed to believe has been that way forever. therefore, if it is arab east jerusalem, the Jews have no right to dig. this is total bravo sierra as is the quartering of Jerusalem, all of which is Jewish forever.


45 posted on 08/05/2005 12:45:43 PM PDT by APRPEH (vision in the middle east without proper sunglasses results in blindness)
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To: Tax-chick
Prayer for the Welfare of the State of Israel

By the Chief Rabbinate of Israel

Our Father who art in heaven, Protector and Redeemer of Israel, bless thou the State of Israel which marks the dawn of our deliverance. Shield it beneath the wings of thy love; spread over it thy canopy of peace; send thy light and thy truth to its leaders, officers and counselors, and direct them with thy good counsel.

O G-d, strengthen the defenders of our Holy Land; grant them salvation and crown them with victory. Establish peace in the land, and everlasting joy for its inhabitants.

Remember our brethren, the whole house of Israel, in all the lands of their dispersion. Speedily let them walk upright to Zion thy city, to Jerusalem thy dwelling-place, as it is written in the Torah of thy servant Moses: “Even if you are dispersed in the uttermost parts of the world, from there the L-rd your G-d will gather and fetch you. The L-rd your G-d will bring you into the land which your fathers possessed, and you shall possess it."

Unite our heart to love and revere thy name, and to observe all the precepts of thy Torah. Shine forth in thy glorious majesty over all the inhabitants of thy world. Let everything that breathes proclaim: “The L-rd G-d of Israel is King; his majesty rules over all.” Amen.

http://www.torahvoice.org/prayers.htm

Pray, every day.

46 posted on 08/05/2005 1:12:18 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (T.O.E. = Unification = Echad!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

bump for later


47 posted on 08/05/2005 1:20:47 PM PDT by SuzanneC
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
If you'd like to be on this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

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48 posted on 08/05/2005 1:27:52 PM PDT by SJackson (America...thru dissent and protest lost the ability to mobilize a will to win, Col Bui Tin, PAVN)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel

"Her work has been sponsored by a conservative Israeli research institute and financed by an American Jewish investment banker who would like to prove that Jerusalem was indeed the capital of the Jewish kingdom described in the Bible. "

Conservative? Ahh, it must be Bush's fault.


49 posted on 08/05/2005 1:53:36 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: West Coast Conservative
The Shalem Center was founded as Israel's first "neoconservative think-tank," said William Kristol, who is also on the board, in an effort to give the Israeli right a better foundation in history, economics, archaeology and other topics.

I wonder if this is the Bill Kristol of FOX.

50 posted on 08/05/2005 1:57:29 PM PDT by July20
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To: ExcursionGuy84

AMEN! to that!!


51 posted on 08/05/2005 1:59:58 PM PDT by CyberAnt (President Bush: "America is the greatest nation on the face of the earth")
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To: Jeremiah Jr

Lovely.


52 posted on 08/05/2005 2:08:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Liberals: Too stupid to realize Dick Cheney is the real Dark Lord.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"The link between the historical evidence and the biblical narration, written much later, is largely missing."

I think there is abour a 500 year difference between the time Muhammad lived and the first known copy of the Koran.

Perhaps a little double standard here???


53 posted on 08/05/2005 2:09:37 PM PDT by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: blam

Ping!


54 posted on 08/05/2005 2:11:15 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Mexico, the 51st state.)
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To: lilylangtree

BS. The Jews planted these artifacts to steal Palestinian land.


55 posted on 08/05/2005 2:12:10 PM PDT by zarf
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To: zarf

you mean to say the ancient ones sound like Ben Cartwright...


56 posted on 08/05/2005 2:16:22 PM PDT by APRPEH (vision in the middle east without proper sunglasses results in blindness)
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To: West Coast Conservative

She found something important, whatever it is. 10th century B.C.!


57 posted on 08/05/2005 2:20:56 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Remembering our Heroes today and every day.)
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To: Tax-chick
Those who would fight over Jerusalem had better take a good look, before they leap.
http:// www.vendyljones.org.il/whose_land_is_israel.htm

Ouch, that’s gonna hurt!

58 posted on 08/05/2005 2:28:03 PM PDT by Jeremiah Jr (T.O.E. = Unification = Echad!)
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To: Jeremiah Jr

you might like to see this website:

http://english.thekotel.org/


59 posted on 08/05/2005 2:34:04 PM PDT by APRPEH (vision in the middle east without proper sunglasses results in blindness)
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To: West Coast Conservative

"The discovery is likely to be a new salvo in a major dispute in biblical archaeology: whether the kingdom of David was of some historical magnitude, or whether the kings were more like small tribal chieftains, reigning over another dusty hilltop."

Way too many historical records say they were tribal kingdoms no larger than a small American village. Some as small in size as no more than a couple hundred people.


60 posted on 08/05/2005 2:38:42 PM PDT by TAquinas (Demographics has consequences.)
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