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Leading Republican differs with Bush on evolution (Santorum)
Reuters ^ | 8/4/05 | Jon Hurdle

Posted on 08/04/2005 12:43:01 PM PDT by Crackingham

A leading Republican senator allied with the religious right differed on Thursday with President Bush's support for teaching an alternative to the theory of evolution known as "intelligent design."

Republican Sen. Rick Santorum, a possible 2008 presidential contender who faces a tough re-election fight next year in Pennsylvania, said intelligent design, which is backed by many religious conservatives, lacked scientific credibility and should not be taught in science classes.

Bush told reporters from Texas on Monday that "both sides" in the debate over intelligent design and evolution should be taught in schools "so people can understand what the debate is about."

"I think I would probably tailor that a little more than what the president has suggested," Santorum, the third-ranking Republican member of the U.S. Senate, told National Public Radio. "I'm not comfortable with intelligent design being taught in the science classroom."

Evangelical Christians have launched campaigns in at least 18 states to make public schools teach intelligent design alongside Charles Darwin's theory of evolution. Proponents of intelligent design argue that nature is so complex that it could not have occurred by random natural selection, as held by Darwin's 1859 theory of evolution, and so must be the work of an unnamed "intelligent cause."

Santorum is the third-ranking member of the U.S. Senate and has championed causes of the religious right including opposition to gay marriage and abortion. He is expected to face a stiff challenge from Democrat Bob Casey in his quest for re-election next year in Pennsylvania, a major battleground state in recent presidential elections.

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"What we should be teaching are the problems and holes -- and I think there are legitimate problems and holes -- in the theory of evolution. What we need to do is to present those fairly, from a scientific point of view," he said in the interview.

"As far as intelligent design is concerned, I really don't believe it has risen to the level of a scientific theory at this point that we would want to teach it alongside of evolution."


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Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: Now_is_The_Time

You want theology taught in a science class? The TOE is the basis of modern biology which becomes incoherent without it.


22 posted on 08/04/2005 1:02:15 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Crackingham

This is all so stupid. Really.

That our Senators should be spending their time, and our resources, addressing evolution vs. intelligent design is Exhibit A on why the federal government should net be getting involved in discussions about curriculum.

As I will continue to say: If we don't let the government dictate the content of our newspapers, WHY are we letting it dictate the content in our classrooms?

I can only imagine that some idiot in the House or Senate will end up proposing some type of legislation action on this issue. Maybe it will die in the Rules Committee and never see daylight, or maybe it will get to a vote.

But whatever happens to it, it will be a waste of time and money, and more important, an outrage on our liberties.


24 posted on 08/04/2005 1:02:21 PM PDT by Maceman (Pro Se Defendant from Hell)
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To: BibChr

ID theory is "common sense"??


25 posted on 08/04/2005 1:02:25 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: BibChr
This is my favorite headline in this debate:

President Confuses Science and Belief, Puts Schoolchildren at Risk

Yep, libs have promoted policies that negatively affected the well-being of schoolkids for years, but let Bush make a comment about teaching ID and all of a sudden THE TYKES ARE AT RISK!

One doesn't have to believe in ID to see just how stupid the hysteria over Bush's comments is.

26 posted on 08/04/2005 1:02:44 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Maceman
Public school classrooms are goverment.
27 posted on 08/04/2005 1:03:22 PM PDT by Borges
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To: Maceman

Exactly.

Why the heck are the Prez and Congresscritters getting involved now?


28 posted on 08/04/2005 1:03:28 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: balch3

It's called pandering to get re-elected.


29 posted on 08/04/2005 1:04:18 PM PDT by OldFriend (MERCY TO THE GUILTY IS CRUELTY TO THE INNOCENT ~ Adam Smith)
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To: Moral Hazard
I agree. And also, they should talk about how science has repeatedly debunked the ideas of creationism from the bible.

That's a pretty bold statement. Care to provide examples? And please provide references, if possible.
30 posted on 08/04/2005 1:04:37 PM PDT by smokeman
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To: Mannaggia l'America
Because someone asked him and everything he says now makes it into the media with some sort of twist to make him look bad, because the DemocRAT/Media complex are gunning for him to lose in 2006.

Hillary never forgave him for making such an utter fool out of her during the partial-birth abortion debates. At that moment, the Clintonista left painted a bright red target on Rick.

Personally, I love the guy.
31 posted on 08/04/2005 1:05:04 PM PDT by Antoninus (Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
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To: k2blader

Duh, yes. And certainly teaching weaknesses of and alternatives to the High Church of Darwin's dogma should be.

Dan


32 posted on 08/04/2005 1:05:34 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: Moral Hazard
I agree. And also, they should talk about how science has repeatedly debunked the ideas of creationism from the bible.

Would you mind quoting specifics?
Generalizations work great for liberals, but as a conservative I like facts more than generalizations or FEELINGS.

33 posted on 08/04/2005 1:05:58 PM PDT by mountn man (Everyone brings joy into a room. Some when they enter. Others when they leave)
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To: Crackingham
"As far as intelligent design is concerned, I really don't believe it has risen to the level of a scientific theory at this point that we would want to teach it alongside of evolution."

Santorum's memorized the Discovery Institute's Talking Points.

34 posted on 08/04/2005 1:06:21 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: BibChr

ID is THEORY, just as evolution is.

Neither is "common sense".


35 posted on 08/04/2005 1:06:40 PM PDT by k2blader (Hic sunt dracones..)
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To: dirtboy

Agreed. It looked like a joke, like a Scrappleface piece. "Women and minorities hit hardest!"

These sorts are SO portentous, SO full of themselves, they have NO CLUE when they become living, walking, talking self-parodies.

Dan


36 posted on 08/04/2005 1:07:12 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: balch3
What in the world is wrong with Santorum. He can be so conservative one minute and then come out with garbage like this the next iminute.

Are you saying that people who believe that Intelligent Design is religion, not science, are not conservatives?

37 posted on 08/04/2005 1:09:23 PM PDT by madfgurtbn
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To: Darkwolf377
Since it takes all of five seconds, why not present an opposing view when teaching Evolution? In fact, I would wager that everytime Evolution is taught, the teacher says "For centuries many believed that humans were created by God or..." etc

Can we go on to say that since we have persuasive evidence that Genesis is mostly wrong about how the Universe was created, this proves the Bible cannot be relied on as a source of truth?

I mean, if you want to talk about the Bible in science class, surely it's OK to mention science contradicts much of what's in the Bible?

39 posted on 08/04/2005 1:11:06 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Crackingham

Ridiculous. Everyone knows that the first man was created by Anansi the Spider and that Nyame breathed life into him.


40 posted on 08/04/2005 1:12:34 PM PDT by soupcon
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