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State goes after smokers who buy cigs on Web (Backlash predicted)
Spokesman Review ^ | August 1, 2005 | Richard Roesler

Posted on 08/03/2005 3:32:02 PM PDT by elkfersupper

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To: newfrpr04

Haven't you heard? Washington state has all its crime problems solved. There are no potholes in the roads. It's a people's paradise!


21 posted on 08/03/2005 4:11:09 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: newfrpr04
Idaho sales tax is 5%, Washington's is 8. And Washington taxes cigarettes at an astronomical rate, while Idaho is quite a bit less, so many people come over the border to buy smokes. And yes, I kid you not, Washington state police have set up observation posts at random times to monitor border smoke shops and watch people who cross the border to bring back cigarettes into Washington.

Think about that: a legal product, already bought and paid for, including taxes, and you get stopped and cited because you bought it out of state. I don't see them doing that with gasoline, or groceries, or any other product.
22 posted on 08/03/2005 4:16:28 PM PDT by Biker Pat
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To: Biker Pat
...-you pay tax to the state you live in, but not work in, or vice versa

I think my brother had the same problem in PA when he was residing in Deleware. It's more income for the state from those who use none of the state's services

23 posted on 08/03/2005 4:16:33 PM PDT by Horatio Gates (Fatiser Visus)
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To: BipolarBob

Tha last words my father spoke to me, while in the oxygen tent, were "You never smoked cigarettes did you Chuck?" "No Dad" I replied. He said "Don't ever start." He died a few weeks later of lung disease at the age of 72 after sixty years of smoking.

I remember him mentioning, when he was in his fifties, that he was up to three packs a day and should probably cut back and I remember that he always smoked Camel straights. In later years, he smoked filters and "Lights" and tried to quit but never quite managed it, even after he was diagnosed with emphasima(sp?)

Not that I am anti-tobacco. Far from it. I enjoy a good cigar several times a week and I even keep a well stocked humidor on my desk. I've been smoking cigars since Vietnam, 1967. I just never could get behind cigarettes. Never even tried them.


24 posted on 08/03/2005 4:17:50 PM PDT by Chuckster (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnoset)
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To: Biker Pat

I'm not a smoker, but I think the cigarette market has been and continues to be taxed and retaxed. Product is legal. It's no wonder people and businesses start doing things to get around it. You should be able to buy what you want with your tax free dollars (what's left of it from state/federal taxes). Old colonist had more guts that we do. We need another Boston Tea party !


25 posted on 08/03/2005 4:23:26 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: elkfersupper
Let me get this straight. If the sales tax on cigarettes approximates 30%, there will be massive evasion.

But if we put a sales tax of 30% on everything, everything will be just fine.

The Fair Tax won't work.

26 posted on 08/03/2005 4:23:38 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: elkfersupper
Oddly enough, they're only going after tobacco, not other goods.

At $16 a case, going after tobacco is going after the big money.

27 posted on 08/03/2005 4:25:56 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: elkfersupper

Personally I believe cigarettes ought to be outlawed completely. Then again the government would never do that because it would soon go broke of have to raise the missing tax money on something else.


28 posted on 08/03/2005 4:28:04 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (GWB a conservative? Don't make me laugh. Have you seen your borders?)
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To: elkfersupper
Oddly enough, they're only going after tobacco, not other goods.

For now....they're doing their thang one step at a time.

29 posted on 08/03/2005 4:28:08 PM PDT by ErnBatavia
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To: elkfersupper

Here's the next progression:

CA, MA or some other socialist state wants to take a back door route to banning guns and ammo and decides to impose a punitive tax of, say $.50 per round, "for the children."

Lawful citizens of the state say "screw that!" and start buying ammo on line from out of state. State watchdogs let things roll for a few years then use the Jenkins Act to find these customers and hit them up for taxes and penaltys.

Score 1 for the state.


30 posted on 08/03/2005 4:32:34 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: trubluolyguy
Personally I believe cigarettes ought to be outlawed completely.

What else would you like to have outlawed?

31 posted on 08/03/2005 4:32:42 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Biker Pat

Same way with cigs purchased in Indiana by Michiganders.


32 posted on 08/03/2005 4:38:26 PM PDT by jammer
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To: elkfersupper
I just bought some Heartgard for my doggies from CanadaPharmacy for half the price I pay at my vet, no prescription required. We'll see.

I'd buy cigarettes on the web too except they don't handle my brand.

33 posted on 08/03/2005 4:38:35 PM PDT by blam
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To: ErnBatavia; SolidSupplySide
Three cheers for smugglers
34 posted on 08/03/2005 4:40:57 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: Libertina; IslandJeff; theirjustdue; mattmullenix; Boazo; pollyannaish; The SISU kid; Nea Wood; ...
Thanks to Horatio Gates for the ping!


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Ping sionnsar if you see a Washington state related thread.

35 posted on 08/03/2005 4:55:39 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Trad-Ang Ping: I read the dreck so you don't have to || Iran Azadi)
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To: Biker Pat
I was amused to discover that the Boston Tea Party was held because the tariffs went up to a whopping 5%! That would be a steal these days...

As it was then.

36 posted on 08/03/2005 4:58:04 PM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || Trad-Ang Ping: I read the dreck so you don't have to || Iran Azadi)
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To: elkfersupper

>>>"Credit card companies and freight delivery services "volunteered" the information under threats of lawsuits by various states.

Oddly enough, they're only going after tobacco, not other goods"<<<

Just step one, they will get around to everything else in due time.


37 posted on 08/03/2005 5:00:55 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (NEMO ME IMPUNE LACESSET)
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To: ex-Texan

Actually I have done that from a place in Switzerland - Duty free and I got a letter from the BATFE saying they have ceased my shipment's at an airport, New York city. Apparently they don't like non taxable tobacco coming into the USA either

:o)


38 posted on 08/03/2005 5:01:21 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: blam
I'd buy cigarettes on the web too except they don't handle my brand.

I switched about a year ago. Now buying from the Indians. These are fabulous. $10 per carton plus shipping.

Bien Mur

39 posted on 08/03/2005 5:01:48 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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To: TexasTransplant
Just step one, they will get around to everything else in due time.

I agree. Right before the next civil war, or right before the productive people just quit working / investing.

40 posted on 08/03/2005 5:08:58 PM PDT by elkfersupper
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