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14 US Marines killed in Iraq
MSNBC/Imus in the Morning

Posted on 08/03/2005 4:04:27 AM PDT by leadpenny

Roadside bomb in western Iraq.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bushbotrage; bushonvaca; coffins; fallen; haditha; ied; iraq; iraqinam; marines; military; oif; richperlestillalive; semperfi; thelastfullmeasure; usmc; veterans; wherearetheuavs; widowmakerinchief
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To: section9

What ever happened to the neutron bomb? Make Haditha an ex-city.


201 posted on 08/03/2005 6:45:29 AM PDT by Inwoodian
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To: chgomac
Excuse me, we put brave men & women in harms way daily "throughout the 1990s" protecting the no fly zone over Iraq. This was on Clinton's watch. You can rant and rave but you can't change the facts.

When a Freeper tries to justify the actions of this administration by claiming that something similar occurred "on Clinton's watch," then I think my cynicism is utterly vindicated.

202 posted on 08/03/2005 6:47:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Alberta's Child
We disagree. Sorry...but we knew going in that there were terrorist sympathetic forces in Iraq...and we knew they would be drawn there to fight us. It is self evident.
203 posted on 08/03/2005 6:50:37 AM PDT by Jeff Head (www.dragonsfuryseries.com)
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To: Allegra
Yes, we're dealing with the "Instant Gratification Crowd." They think it should be just like the movies. We go in, we invade, we conquer the regime and then everybody lives happily ever after.

How can we possibly expect people to believe any differently when this is precisely how our government has portrayed warfare ever since the first Gulf War (or even sooner -- in Grenada and Panama)?

204 posted on 08/03/2005 6:52:00 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: leadpenny; All
We must not forget that the actions of war are dangerous.

To my BROTHERS in arms & harms way;

Your duties have just begun in a much posting. Go take your posts in Heaven & report to "Chesty" and all of our Marine Corps hero's & legends!
205 posted on 08/03/2005 6:52:16 AM PDT by TMSuchman (2nd Generation U.S. MARINE, 3rd Generation American & PROUD OF IT!)
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To: Alberta's Child

It is the LACK OF ACTION during the Clinton Watch that we have all the problems that we have to face now. Thank God for George Bush! At least he has the backbone and the fortitude to do what is right. He does not care what the left and media think, he does what is right. Maybe if Clinton would have done his job instead of freeloading off of the American Taxpayer and getting his jollies in office, things would not have gotten to this point. But, again, he didn't think that we had any "CONTROLLING LEGAL AUTHORITY" to arrest BL.


206 posted on 08/03/2005 6:53:03 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: leadpenny

Please pray for my brother. His name is Chris, he is in that area. He is on an amphibious assault vehicle crew with the reserve unit out of Gulfport, Ms.


207 posted on 08/03/2005 6:53:06 AM PDT by Reagan79 (Ralph Stanley & The Clinch Mountain Boys)
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To: Jeff Head
Sorry...but we knew going in that there were terrorist sympathetic forces in Iraq...and we knew they would be drawn there to fight us. It is self evident.

If you can find any evidence to indicate that "we knew" anything of this sort, then present it here. Otherwise, there's nothing "factual" about what you've posted -- and saying that something is "self evident" does not make it factual.

208 posted on 08/03/2005 6:54:01 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Allegra

Oh, they really are throwing you a poolside party, cool! I was just joking...


209 posted on 08/03/2005 6:54:13 AM PDT by wazoo1031
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To: Jeff Head

Nearly three years ago I was against the resolution of force. Some called me peacenic and other names. Not so. I was advocating a declaration of war instead of a resolution of force.

With a DoW the Congress cannot simply get weak kneed and political as they are now.

Also, with a DoW, Freepers cannot simpley get weak kneed and cower as they are now.


210 posted on 08/03/2005 6:54:14 AM PDT by Eagle Eye (Wished I had bought stock in HESCO.)
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To: Reagan79

He is in my prayers as are all of our military over there


211 posted on 08/03/2005 6:54:19 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: iconoclast
I don't think the war is over. There is never going to be a formal surrender signed on the deck of the Missouri. There is no formal enemy. That is what makes this so difficult.

As for the source, I will work on that today at work. I saw a program on post war Germany and Japan. It was quite interesting the difference between how the U.S. dealt with the residual Nazis versus how the Russians dealt with them. If a Russian was killed in their sector, they rounded up a select number of local villagers and shot them. I'll see if I can find a link. I would like to read more on it.

212 posted on 08/03/2005 6:55:13 AM PDT by dc27
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To: surfatsixty

Good article. After Tet of 68 and the loss of support back home and in congress, I went back to Vietnam for a second tour. Of course it was voluntary for me but it was as if I had gone to a different war in a different country. If I could describe the impression I had I would, but in a few words the overall attitude, even among the officers and senior NCOs, was, "Don't do anything to get others or yourself killed - it's over!"

I can almost feel the tension at the highest levels of The Pentagon after these last two days. I believe the administration needs to be looking for a different tactical and strategic direction. If it doesn't do this, the Republicans can probably kiss at least one house of congress goodbye in 06 and probably the White House in 08.


213 posted on 08/03/2005 6:55:39 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: 11th_VA

its not we cant - we wont


214 posted on 08/03/2005 6:55:46 AM PDT by deathb4dishoner
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To: southernindymom

One thing I am fairly certain of is this . . . If the Clinton Administration had pursued this war in Iraq, I can guarantee you that 99% of the folks here on FreeRepublic (me being louder than anyone else) would have called for his impeachment once the U.S. casualty count exceeded about 25 soldiers.


215 posted on 08/03/2005 6:56:38 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Reagan79

We will pray for Cris and all our Bravest Fighting in Iraq.
I hope you hear from him soon. God bless you.


216 posted on 08/03/2005 6:57:13 AM PDT by Liberty Valance ( Howdy!)
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To: Reagan79

God Bless him and all those he serves with.


217 posted on 08/03/2005 6:57:14 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: arasina
"[Despite battling terrorists in Iraq] Have our guys...Stopped any 'terrorists' from making it over here?"

Good point....

We do realize the answer to your question is a resounding "NO."

While U.S. Armed Forces fight tooth and nail fighting and sacrificing as part of the so-called WoT, "making it over here" has been a mere matter of strolling into America over the Mexican border on a red carpet.

The Minutemen tried to do something about it, but were called "vigilantes."

Do we know just who may be "making it over here" since 9/11?

Could be ANYBODY. Even Terrorists. A lot of them.

218 posted on 08/03/2005 6:58:03 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: Dont_Tread_On_Me_888

...During the American Revolution, our rag-tag army fought for their own nation and for freedom. We were outclassed, but it was the desire and passion and leadership that won the Revolution for us. ...

Ok...

But the iraqis are not americans.
It was not their Indepence War.
It was the US-s war to get rid of an unfriendly regional power.
But it CAN turn into their Indepence War - for exactly the opposite effect.

You can not kick down the door and push down the freedom on peoples' throat halfway then expect them to swallow it and say thank you for it...


219 posted on 08/03/2005 6:58:11 AM PDT by bozot
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To: Reagan79
Please pray for my brother...Chris

Done!

220 posted on 08/03/2005 6:59:12 AM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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