Posted on 08/02/2005 8:54:52 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican
At 18, you can offer your kids a couple two options: (1) partial/full college financing, or if they don't want to continue their education (2), seed money to get their first apartment (or a ticket to the recruiting depot).
You'll never be able to have a cool parent/gown kid relationship until they get out there and grow up.
If you don't like the major, you won't like the job.
I would rather live modestly in a job I like than rich with a job I hate.
Many aren't interested in business administration etc.
Thanks for the advice.
If you are from Porterville, CA, you that a $200K home is fast becoming history. Also, getting a loan to buy that home is tough, unless you dig yourself into the rat race.
Yes, you need to earn a home. But, your home should be a place of solitude, not a burden to overcome.
State Representative Mitchell Aye from GA. This guy should run for President one day...
"We the sensible people of the United States, in an attempt to help everyone get along, restore some semblance of justice, avoid more riots, keep our nation safe, promote positive behavior, and secure the blessings of debt free liberty to ourselves and our great-great-great-grandchildren, hereby try one more time to ordain and establish some common sense guidelines for the terminally whiny, guilt ridden, delusional, and other liberal bed-wetters.
We hold these truths to be self evident: that a whole lot of people are confused by the Bill of Rights and are so dim they require a Bill of NON-Rights."
ARTICLE I: You do not have the right to a new car, big screen TV, or any other form of wealth. More power to you if you can legally acquire them, but no one is guaranteeing anything.
ARTICLE II: You do not have the right to never be offended. This country is based on freedom, and that means freedom for everyone -- not just you! You may leave the room, turn the channel, express a different opinion, etc.; but the world is full of idiots, and probably always will be.
ARTICLE III: You do not have the right to be free from harm. If you stick a screwdriver in your eye, learn to be more careful, do not expect the tool manufacturer to make you and all your relatives independently wealthy.
ARTICLE IV: You do not have the right to free food and housing. Americans are the most charitable people to be found, and will gladly help anyone in need, but we are quickly growing weary of subsidizing generation after generation of professional couch potatoes who achieve nothing more than the creation of another generation of professional couch potatoes.
ARTICLE V: You do not have the right to free health care. That would be nice, but from the looks of public housing, we're just not interested in public health care.
ARTICLE VI: You do not have the right to physically harm other people. If you kidnap, rape, intentionally maim, or kill someone, don't be surprised if the rest of us want to see you fry in the electric chair.
ARTICLE VII: You do not have the right to the possessions of others. If you rob, cheat, or coerce away the goods or services of other citizens, don't be surprised if the rest of us get together and lock you away in a place where you still won't have the right to a big screen color TV or a life of leisure.
ARTICLE VIII: You do not have the right to a job. All of us sure want you to have a job, and will gladly help you along in hard times, but we expect you to take advantage of the opportunities of education and vocational training laid before you to make yourself useful.
ARTICLE IX: You do not have the right to happiness. Being an American means that you have the right to PURSUE happiness, which by the way, is a lot easier if you are unencumbered by an over abundance of idiotic laws created by those of you who were confused by the Bill of Rights.
ARTICLE X: This is an English speaking country. We don't care where you are from, English is our language. Learn it or go back to wherever you came from! (lastly....) NOW..
ARTICLE XI: You do not have the right to change our country's history or heritage. This country was founded on the belief in one true God. And yet, you are given the freedom to believe in any religion, any faith, or no faith at all; with no fear of persecution. The phrase IN GOD WE TRUST is part of our heritage and history, and if you are uncomfortable with it, TOUGH!!!!
If you agree, share this with a friend. No, you don't have to, and nothing tragic will befall you if you don't. I just think it's about time common sense is allowed to flourish. Sensible people of the United States speak out because if you do not, who will?
Particularly for kids who grew up in affluent neighborhoods. Their parents started with less in many cases and became affluent ... the children expect to start off at the level their parents achieved. It's the entitlement thing ...
I love threads like this.
Great point. Too many people are worshiping at the altar of a college degree at any cost. It doesn't make financial sense to go a hundred thousand dollars in debt to get a job making 25K a year. A course in entrepreneurship might be all they really need. Conventional wisdom isn't cutting it anymore.
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I don't have a problem with these folks living with their parents. The children they create deserve to meet the ones who will actually be raising them.
I disagree. I lived in Arlington for ywo years. My apartment complex had 500 units and my wife and me were one of the few married couples living there. Rosslyn, Courthouse, Clarendon, Ballston etc. are packed with young single people.
1. Require they pay room and board 2. Require that they have chores to help 3. Set a curfew 4. Treat them like they are 16
This is a great learning thread!
When the Boomers got out of school, even the most drug addled and lethargic had jobs literally thrown at them. And then, on the job, so long as the showed up most days, didn't piss too many people off and played a bit of office politics, they rose up in rank. Many ended or are ending their careers as execs or at least mid management or as high earning indy consultants. Those who have not attained such performance typically did not try or have serious issues. Whereas, subsequent generations have pretty much had to kick butt in order to even hold their own let alone get promoted. I have inched into mid management and still to this day most of my peers are Boomers. I don't envy new grads.
A joke between Dad and I goes like this:
"Dad? Do you love me?"
"Of course I do, Pookey."
"What do you love most about me?"
"The fact that you left home at 17 and never came back!"
LOL! ;)
My advice to you is to do it. This is really one of the last times you'll get a long period of time off. Once you start law school, if you do well, you'll find yourself working summers.
And whatever you do, don't move home.
The professor makes the major, and the job is what you make of it. A sad sack won't be happy anywhere for any money. A pleasant person will thrive anywhere.
The majors our kids chose were from a discussion of what the job market would, more than likely, always have a need for. Both our girls carried double majors and are both going for their MBA's while working and raising families and our son went accelerated in his first major, transferred and got another.
And a lot of people should postpone college education until they are in their 30s. This would be a much more popular approach if it weren't for the strings attached to many federal and state student loan programs that require full-time or at least half time student status, and also require being in a degree program and making satisfactory progress (as defined by the college) towards the degree. This rules out financial aid for the busy parent who wants to take one course at a time, changing schools from semester to semester according to where a desired course is offered on a workable schedule. It also empowers college administrations to require students to take worthless indoctrination courses in order to fulfill distribution requirements in things like "social justice" and "gender issues". Refuse to take this garbage, and then you're not making "satisfactory progress toward a degree" and you lose your financial aid.
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