[Namyak]

Replies like your's show me that there are few people on this thread who have any concept of "family" in the traditional sense... I lived in a house with my family and my grandparents for the first 12 years of my life... we moved out when my father was 40 years old... not because we're a family of mooches, but because we actually know what family is about... my dziadziu lived in that same house until his dying day, cared for by his children. Too many people nowadays will try to push their children out the minute their 18 and throw their parents in a retirement home once they become too much of a hassle... because nowadays, it isn't about family first, it's all about me first.

[Ashamed Canadian]

I may sound a little harsh, although I will admit I come from a single parent family (father deceased). However, I was taught the value of hard work.