Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 12

Various News Outlets | 8/2/05

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"Lorenzo has the same wide set eyes that paulus has...."

in studies of fetal alcohol syndrome babies, the distance between the innermost points of the eyelids (proportional to overall facial measurments) was found to very wide compared to the general population.

[theophilusscribe]

No it was not. It was some kind of Aruban site (http://www.pancayente.com ) and it had that picture of him next to an article about him. I Googled "Cafe Bahia, Joran" and this was one of the sites that came up. It must be a picture of what he was doing at the club.

[theophilusscribe]

That POS should rot in he!!. He is a predator and should never see the light of day again!

I'm not getting how you really feel . . . you post in such ambiguous terms that it is hard to get a sense of your true opinion of JVDS. You need to learn to be a little more expressive. It is ok to allow your emotions to show through. . . . Ok?

LOL!

[theophilusscribe]

They know it could have been them. It has to be unbelievable for them.

Absolutely . . . they're not showing it so much, but it must be hard on them.

[theophilusscribe]

I can only say for his sake that I hope it's a female, rather than male that he's doing that to. He's got enough problems as it is, without adding in THAT.

He doesn't have any other boundaries, why start there?

Yuck!

[bannie]

in studies of fetal alcohol syndrome babies, the distance between the innermost points of the eyelids (proportional to overall facial measurements) was found to very wide compared to the general population.

Off subject: I've seldom seen eyes wider apart than Liza Manilli's.

BTW: Isn't there also some correlation between alcohol syndrome and a flatness on the front and back of the head?

[presently no screen name]

He's a fireman now.



so now he's putting out fires instead of starting one! :0

[hummingbird]

Thanks for the link; I couldn't open the earlier pic either (darn you, red "x" in a box!). This photo is one of the images in my mind that I took to be Lorenzo.

There were so many images on Joran's site initially but they were taken down (how do they do that and can't there be some way to bring them back - cache, waybackmachine, etc?). Guess I should have saved them but they were taken down so quickly! I didn't have a clue that we'd lose those photos so soon and I'm edgy about going to "Tickle" and "MYSPACE" or whatever they are called - not sure I've got enough spyware to protect my precious PC.

I read that someone was posting as Deepak after the brothers got out of the clink but don't know if it was ever confirmed to actually be Deepak.

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

"Isn't there also some correlation between alcohol syndrome and a flatness on the front and back of the head?"

it's been so long since I read what I read that I can't remember it all....there were lots of things, tho.....not just the eyes

[presently no screen name]

Gary has a vast amount of knowledge and experience ......



One more time, NSNR
BUMP!

[Dark Skies]

I saved a couple of pics of Jurine, but nothing special. It's funny how he always seems to wear the same the blue shirt. In nearly every pic of him, its the same shirt.

[texasbluebell]

...not that there's anything wrong with it...

[said in a Seinfeld voice]

[hummingbird]

Maybe those were his "colors!" LOL.

[Yaelle]

I think it's just Beth Twitty, Aruba. She gets mail with only that on it, I believe.

[GarySpFc]

That "disgusting pix of Joran".......
where does it say that's him??
Is that a porn site?

Does anybody doubt Joran is a sociopath now?

[theophilusscribe]

LOL!

[hummingbird]

LOL on Seinfeld reference! Recently saw that episode on cable re-runs.

[theophilusscribe]

Another Girl Approached by Joran and the Kalpoes?
http://www.scaredmonkeys.com/?p=1372
by Tom

It looks like Beth Twitty’s perseverence has paid off to a small degree. She has found another girl who met Joran Van Der Sloot and the Kalpoe brothers at Carlos and Charlies.

Via WTOK

All it took was one person to come forward,” said Beth Twitty, mother of Natalee Holloway, who has been missing from Aruba since May 30.

Twitty says the young woman told her, like Natalee, she had met Joran van der Sloot and his friends, brothers Deepak and Satish Kalpoe, in an Aruban bar while on vacation.

A young, beautiful, blonde 18-year-old tourist, she happened to be at Carlos and Charlie’s late; it was getting close to closing time,” said Twitty.

Twitty described the anonymous witness account of a night at the same bar Natalee was last seen at, driving away with the three young men. How Joran was continuously scoping Carlos and Charlie’s.

“He approaches these three tourists and it’s just interesting how he just instantly begins to try to connect with, begin to try to relate with them,” Twitty said. “And he was telling these girls that those are his gambling buddies, that they play poker together. And then he proceeds to lean across the bar and tell the bartender, “I need four shots of 151.’ He just leans across the bar; the bartender just lines up four shots of 151. These girls had no idea. It makes me wonder, is this the shot he was buying my daughter right before closing time? A shot of 151? I wish Natalee would have been able to see that those three were tightly connected. She didn’t have that privilege. All she thought was she was getting into an Aruban cab. She didn’t have a chance. She didn’t stand a chance.”

CBS News also has an angle on this story.

[OldEagle]

"Isn't there also some correlation between alcohol syndrome and a flatness on the front and back of the head?"

It's on the BACK of the head and is caused by falling backwards off of bar stools. As in bottoms up.

[Dark Skies]

151 is 151 proof Bacardi.