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Gitmo Jive
The American Enterprise ^ | September 05 | Gordon Cucullu

Posted on 08/02/2005 6:28:35 AM PDT by Valin

Guantanamo Bay, Cuba—In the fall of 2001, the U.S. Naval Facility at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba (“Gitmo” to those who live here) was teetering on the edge of oblivion, with a skeleton crew of fewer than 2,000 servicemembers on duty. Now a contingent of more than 10,000 resides here. Behind that surge: the need for secure confinement of a collection of human debris snatched from the battlefields of Afghanistan in early 2002.

These “detainees” are not innocent foot soldiers, or confused Afghan opium farmers drafted by the Taliban. They are Islamic fundamentalists from across the Middle East, rabid jihadists who have dedicated their lives to the destruction of America and Western civilization. Among the residents are al-Qaeda organizers, bomb makers, financial specialists, recruiters of suicide attackers, and just plain killers. Many of these men met frequently with Osama bin Laden. The terrorist Maad Al Qahtani, a Saudi who is a self-confessed collaborator with the September 11 hijackers, is one of many infamous captives.

In the opening salvos of the global war on terror, our forces took a lot of prisoners from the battlefield. Estimates are that more than 70,000 Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters were captured and screened. Of that number, approximately 800 were deemed of such high value for intelligence purposes, or such a severe threat in their own person, that they needed to be interrogated and confined in a secure locale from which they could not easily escape or be rescued. Welcome to the new Gitmo.

I was able to observe conditions at the detention facility, firsthand, at the end of June, when I was invited to join a group of ten former military and intelligence analysts on an inspection tour. Briefings commenced aboard our aircraft shortly after take-off, and continued until landing. We were met planeside by Brigadier General Jay Hood, the commanding officer of Joint Task Force Gitmo, whose soldiers are responsible for the security, interrogation, housing, and oversight of all the terrorists confined there. General Hood and his staff fielded all questions and criticisms, and were very forthcoming.

Who are these men?

While we observed absolutely no evidence of torture of prisoners at Gitmo, it is clear that the daily atmosphere is rife with harsh abuse: The prisoners are constantly assaulting the guards.

Our young military men and women routinely endure the vilest invective imaginable, including death threats that spill over to guards’ families. All soldiers and sailors working “inside the wire” have blacked out their name tags so that the detainees will not learn their identities. Before that step was taken the terrorists were threatening to tell their al-Qaeda pals still at large who the guards were. “We will look you up on the Internet,” the prisoners said. “We will find you and slaughter you and your family in your homes at night. We will cut your throats like sheep. We will drink the blood of the infidel.”

That is bad enough, but the terrorist prisoners throw more than words at the guards. On a daily basis, American soldiers carrying out their duties within the maximum-security camp are barraged with feces, urine, semen, and spit hurled by the detainees. Secretly fashioned weapons intended for use in attacking guards or fellow detainees are confiscated regularly. When food or other items are passed through the “bean hole”—an opening approximately 4 inches by 24 inches in the cell doors, the detainees have grabbed at the wrists and arms of the Americans feeding them and tried to break their bones.

When guards enter the cells to remove detainees for interrogation sessions, medical visits, or any number of reasons, detainees sometimes climb on the metal bunks and leap on the guards. They have crammed themselves under the bunks, requiring several guards to extract them. Some have attacked unsuspecting soldiers with steel chairs. Determined to inflict maximum damage, detainees have groped under the protective face masks of the guards, clawing their faces and trying to gouge eyes and tear mouths.

Keep in mind that our soldiers—young men and young women—are absolutely forbidden from responding in kind. They are constrained to maintain absolute discipline and follow humane operating procedures at all times, at risk of serious punishment. Documents recently obtained by the Associated Press through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit show that one detainee punched a guard in the mouth, knocking out his tooth, then began to bite the MP. Several guards were required to repel the prisoner’s attack; one soldier who came to the rescue delivered two blows to the inmate’s head with a handheld radio. For this he was dropped in rank to private.

In a different incident, an MP doused with toilet water responded by spraying the offending inmate with a hose. For this he was charged with assault. Another American soldier was disciplined for cursing at inmates. One guard punched a detainee after being struck and spit on while placing the man in restraints in the prison hospital in October 2004. (“My instincts took over after the hitting and spitting,” the soldier wrote in his report.) He was recommended for a reduction in rank to E-4, loss of a month’s pay, and extra duty for 45 days.

How cooperative a detainee is determines where he is housed, how much free time he is given, whether he lives alone or in a group, and what color clothing he wears. The most dangerous wear an orange jump suit. Those who heed instructions earn a beige jumpsuit, and those who are deemed to be fully compliant wear white. The latter groups have daily recreation periods, live in groups of as many as ten, and receive extra privileges. The compliance rating, by the way, has nothing to do with cooperation with interrogators. Indeed, many fully compliant detainees have maintained stoic silence, while some of the most notorious, dangerous prisoners speak freely with interrogators.

Nearly all of these hardened terrorists have been well coached on how to be an American captive. Given any opportunity, they will all claim torture and human rights violations. They have been schooled on counter-interrogation techniques, on how to construct and maintain a cover story, and other subterfuges to fool or deflect interrogators.

Some detainees, including one classified as a “high value intelligence source” that I was able to observe, take pride in discussing their activities and capabilities with interrogators. The man I saw brags about Americans he has killed, other Muslims he has terrorized, attacks he has planned and carried out, and what he will do to the Americans if he has a chance. He is a leader, and affirms his high rank within the al-Qaeda chain. He has started or ended riotous behavior by fellow prisoners on more than one occasion.

With twisted irony, this individual condemns prisoners who maintain silence for being “ashamed” of their past. “They ought to proclaim their feats as proof of their commitment to the cause of Islam,” he tells interrogators, while munching continuously from a box of doughnuts provided by the interrogator. Why the doughnuts? “He throws his food at the guards,” General Hood says, “so he loves to eat the doughnuts during the interrogation sessions.”

Too hard? Or too soft?

We asked Hood if he was possibly being too lenient with these men. “This system of rapport-building works,” Hood assures us. In support of the soft-handed approach, he cites an extraordinary amount of actionable intelligence that continues to flow out of the interrogation rooms of Gitmo.

His revelation was a surprise to me. During my own career in the U.S. Army Special Forces, I had been taught that intelligence, like bread, gets stale quickly. That may be true for tactical intelligence of the sort I used in the field. Strategic intelligence, the kind that we continue to collect at Gitmo, however, seems to have a much longer shelf life. Today’s interrogators are succeeding at mapping out the complex organizational and financial structure of al-Qaeda in increasing detail, thereby uncovering networks that need to be attacked and dismantled. They are uncovering new “sleeper” cells. They are learning of temporarily shelved plans for new terrorist attacks, some of which have subsequently been thwarted by law enforcement authorities in America and Europe.

Another surprise for me was learning that many of the U.S. interrogators are women. We have all heard the salacious stories about using women to tease or embarrass the detainees. I saw a different reality. The camp behavioral expert, a female Ph.D. who has more than two years of experience at Gitmo, informed me that female interrogators have been very effective.

“We assume the role of sister or mother,” she explained, “something that is quite acceptable and natural in their culture.” She dresses demurely for her sessions. “I wear long sleeves, an ankle-length dress, and little makeup.” The interrogation room she enters is sparsely furnished with leg cuffs to secure the prisoner, a one-way mirror, cameras, and a distress button to summon help if needed.

“We review what we know of their backgrounds, try lots of approaches, and work on them to find something that they can relate to. Once we can get them to relate on a common item, even something irrelevant and mundane, then we can begin to probe.” It is a long, complex process requiring great patience, and more than a little human empathy. It categorically rejects the use of drugs, coercion, or duress.

Intelligence gleaned from Gitmo is blended with information from other sources to connect dots. We learned that one non-cooperative detainee had his cover penetrated just last month by having his photo identified by a freshly captured fighter in Afghanistan. Once confronted with his real identity, he began to talk.

It is important to keep in mind that these men, while exceedingly dangerous and even pathological in their desire to kill Westerners, are generally well-educated and broadly traveled. Several detainees have advanced degrees in law, engineering, and medicine from American and European schools like the University of London. Others are highly skilled technical experts with advanced training and knowledge of electronics and demolitions. (Some of these are contributing to our knowledge of al-Qaeda bombs found in Iraq.) Many of these men occupied the top al-Qaeda echelons, and met frequently with bin Laden.

A lot of these men came from middle-class or wealthy families. They come from 17 different countries, but a great many are Saudi Arabian. They are not driven by poverty, unemployment, or class deprivation. They are motivated by a virulent form of Islam that promotes jihad and death to Western civilization. They will kill Americans—including women and children—without conscience, for they are convinced that restoration of the Islamic caliphate is their sole mission on this Earth.

Gitmo guards in the crosshairs

Many readers will have heard stories about detainees sleeping in air-conditioned berths, while the American troops guarding them sweated in tents. You may have heard that American soldiers were eating MREs while the terrorists dined on three “hots” daily, providing about 2,600 calories of carefully varied food. Those stories were correct.

Conditions for camp guards have been improved dramatically, however. I ate heartily with the soldiers and sailors working the camps (the Navy supplies a large number of experienced Masters at Arms), and learned how they feel about their mission. Universally, they are proud of their work, although somewhat disappointed that the American public is not more aware of the difficulties they undergo to keep us safe.

One young woman at my table, an Army private first class, was asked what she thought about rhetoric in the American media, and from the mouths of elected officials like Senators Richard Durbin (D-IL) and Ted Kennedy (D-MA), describing our service members at Guantanamo as “Nazis.” Frowning, she answered, “It hurts my feelings to hear that junk. We try to do as good a job as possible down here. These detainees are dangerous. They try to kill us every time we get close to them, and would certainly kill Americans if released.”

I asked her if morale was affected by such political statements. “I’ll tell you this,” she replied, breaking into a grin. “Every time we get called those names we decide we’re going to show ’em. We focus on our mission and work harder.”

Guards pull several days of duty inside the wire, and are then rotated out. They need the relief from the intense pressure inside. But the time outside is not R&R; training continues on a constant basis. Gitmo has some of the most detailed and comprehensive procedural rules in the military. Supervision is constant, random inspections are common, all supervisors in the chain of command are held responsible for the actions of subordinates, and soldiers are schooled to report infractions.

The American servicemembers at Guantanamo do not have the satisfaction of tossing a grenade or shooting back at the terrorists in their midst. They will not be recognized when awards for valor are bestowed. In the face of vile abuse they must respond with supreme restraint, aware that even the slightest infraction will draw the fury and condemnation of hyperbolic politicians and reporters who loathe our military and want nothing more than to embarrass and damage American interests in this war.

For defense against irresponsible and slanderous charges, these men and women rely on ordinary Americans—those of us who rest at home in the shadow of safety they cast.

Former Special Forces lieutenant colonel Gordon Cucullu is a frequent television commentator on military matters


TOPICS: Cuba; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaeda; detainees; gitmo; guantanamobay; jihadists; maadalqahtani; prisoners; taliban; waronterror
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1 posted on 08/02/2005 6:28:36 AM PDT by Valin
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To: Valin

I can't believe we are penalizing soldiers for defending themselves.


2 posted on 08/02/2005 6:32:19 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: Valin

"We will look you up on the Internet,” the prisoners said. “We will find you and slaughter you and your family in your homes at night. We will cut your throats like sheep. We will drink the blood of the infidel.”

There should be no Gitmo, and no prisoners. All of these fiends should have been executed outright.


3 posted on 08/02/2005 6:48:17 AM PDT by Shaun_MD (Here I abandon peace and desecrate law. Farewell to treaties. Fortune it is you I follow)
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To: Valin
Thank you for posting this unbelievable article Valin!

Of course we will never see any of this in the MSM.
4 posted on 08/02/2005 6:51:32 AM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: Valin

Thanks for the comprehensive SitRep, Colonel!

It's nice to get the straight scoop for once.

Semper Fi!


5 posted on 08/02/2005 6:55:55 AM PDT by BwanaNdege ("Experience is the best teacher. If you can get it 2nd hand, the tuition is less" -M. Rosen)
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To: jan in Colorado

I'm sure Nightline will do a 1 hour special on it.
/sarcasm


6 posted on 08/02/2005 6:59:13 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Fred Nerks; Dark Skies; Former Dodger; AmericanArchConservative; EdReform; BillF
The "Real" Club Gitmo.

I can't believe what our soldiers have to put up with from these scum bags.
7 posted on 08/02/2005 1:26:45 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: jan in Colorado
“We will find you and slaughter you and your family in your homes at night. We will cut your throats like sheep. We will drink the blood of the infidel.”

They know Allah is the Evil One. And they like it.

8 posted on 08/02/2005 1:35:14 PM PDT by Dark Skies (?)
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To: Dark Skies; Justanobody
They know Allah is the Evil One. And they like it.

A lovable bunch, aren't they? They are just so misunderstood!

9 posted on 08/02/2005 1:54:20 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: jan in Colorado
Muslims are like very young, but very bad children. They do bad things and are vy hateful, but, when caught, they cry and say they are misunderstood and mistreated. They plead that they are too young to be punished. But as so soon as you are out of sight, they start right back with the evil. They are demonic and singleminded about their goal.

Like you said elsewhere today (it might been yesterday), "Hitler is nothing compared to Islam." Hitler may have cut a little a deal with the Devil, but Allah is the Devil and Islam is his perfect plan for the destruction of Christian and Jews...and domination of the world.

10 posted on 08/02/2005 2:05:40 PM PDT by Dark Skies (?)
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To: jan in Colorado
Thanks for the ping. Now please excuse me while I go hurl.

Okay I'm back...
For this he was dropped in rank to private...
For this he was charged with assault...
...soldier was disciplined for cursing at inmates...
He was recommended for a reduction in rank to E-4, loss of a month’s pay, and extra duty for 45 days...

This is just wrong. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I will continue to say it ...

TAKE NO PRISONERS !!!

11 posted on 08/02/2005 2:50:10 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: Justanobody
This is just wrong. I've said it before, I'll say it again, I will continue to say it ...

TAKE NO PRISONERS !!!

I'm with ya *somebody* ;o)

This article made me sick. It put Durbin's comments in an even more unbelievable light. I am disgusted by how the Democrats, aided by the MSM, have politicized this entire War on Terror at the risk of our Nation's security.

God Bless our brave troops who risk their lives so that we can remain free.

12 posted on 08/02/2005 3:03:56 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: jan in Colorado
It put Durbin's comments in an even more unbelievable light. Yes, God Bless our troops!! They get no help at all from their government!

btw, I love your tag verse. I have a t-shirt with that same verse.

13 posted on 08/02/2005 4:40:02 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: jan in Colorado
It put Durbin's comments in an even more unbelievable light.

"It's" comments have always been unbelievable to me. Even more unbelievable was the so called "republicans" that did absolutely nothing about him. It was right after his treasonous remarks that violence broke out again in Afghanistan, claiming 19 of our finest.

Yes, God Bless our troops!! They get no help at all from their government!

btw, I love your tag verse. I have a t-shirt with that same verse.

Whoa, don't know what happened in my last post - lost half of it.

14 posted on 08/02/2005 4:43:49 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: USF; Ironmajor

Take no prisoners ping!


15 posted on 08/02/2005 8:18:37 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: Valin

bttt


16 posted on 08/02/2005 8:24:14 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Shaun_MD
AMEN, brother!

Thhere is no reason to keep them after they have told their tale...they will never change, or "rehabilitate"...they are "rabid" and the only cure for that is ....?

17 posted on 08/02/2005 9:26:01 PM PDT by Former Dodger ( "Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." --Einstein)
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To: Former Dodger

Send them to Reeducation Camps. We will be humane as Pol Pot or Vietnam or The North Koreans.


18 posted on 08/02/2005 9:28:01 PM PDT by stocksthatgoup
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To: Shaun_MD; jan in Colorado

What about those we have admitted were wrongly imprisoned--those who were nabbed in a dragnet and were in the wrong place at the wrong time (e.g., taxi driver) or were turned in by dishonest informants? Are you aware that we have released dozens of detainees?

Would you really have liked the execution of innocents?


19 posted on 08/02/2005 10:31:02 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Shaun_MD; jan in Colorado; Justanobody
Regarding "Take no prisoners" approach, how about this from the article...
Strategic intelligence, the kind that we continue to collect at Gitmo, however, seems to have a much longer shelf life. Today’s interrogators are succeeding at mapping out the complex organizational and financial structure of al-Qaeda in increasing detail, thereby uncovering networks that need to be attacked and dismantled. They are uncovering new “sleeper” cells. They are learning of temporarily shelved plans for new terrorist attacks, some of which have subsequently been thwarted by law enforcement authorities in America and Europe.
So the good feeling of killing them all instead of capturing them is worth the loss of strategic intelligence? I'm not sure I agree with that cost/benefit analysis, if this article is correct.
20 posted on 08/02/2005 10:48:41 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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