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Let's Have No More Monkey Trials - To teach faith as science is to undermine both
Time Magazine ^ | Monday, Aug. 01, 2005 | CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER

Posted on 08/01/2005 10:58:13 AM PDT by wallcrawlr

The half-century campaign to eradicate any vestige of religion from public life has run its course. The backlash from a nation fed up with the A.C.L.U. kicking crèches out of municipal Christmas displays has created a new balance. State-supported universities may subsidize the activities of student religious groups. Monuments inscribed with the Ten Commandments are permitted on government grounds. The Federal Government is engaged in a major antipoverty initiative that gives money to churches. Religion is back out of the closet.

But nothing could do more to undermine this most salutary restoration than the new and gratuitous attempts to invade science, and most particularly evolution, with religion. Have we learned nothing? In Kansas, conservative school-board members are attempting to rewrite statewide standards for teaching evolution to make sure that creationism's modern stepchild, intelligent design, infiltrates the curriculum. Similar anti-Darwinian mandates are already in place in Ohio and are being fought over in 20 states. And then, as if to second the evangelical push for this tarted-up version of creationism, out of the blue appears a declaration from Christoph Cardinal Schönborn of Vienna, a man very close to the Pope, asserting that the supposed acceptance of evolution by John Paul II is mistaken. In fact, he says, the Roman Catholic Church rejects "neo-Darwinism" with the declaration that an "unguided evolutionary process--one that falls outside the bounds of divine providence--simply cannot exist."

Cannot? On what scientific evidence? Evolution is one of the most powerful and elegant theories in all of human science and the bedrock of all modern biology. Schönborn's proclamation that it cannot exist unguided--that it is driven by an intelligent designer pushing and pulling and planning and shaping the process along the way--is a perfectly legitimate statement of faith. If he and the Evangelicals just stopped there and asked that intelligent design be included in a religion curriculum, I would support them. The scandal is to teach this as science--to pretend, as does Schönborn, that his statement of faith is a defense of science. "The Catholic Church," he says, "will again defend human reason" against "scientific theories that try to explain away the appearance of design as the result of 'chance and necessity,'" which "are not scientific at all." Well, if you believe that science is reason and that reason begins with recognizing the existence of an immanent providence, then this is science. But, of course, it is not. This is faith disguised as science. Science begins not with first principles but with observation and experimentation.

In this slippery slide from "reason" to science, Schönborn is a direct descendant of the early 17th century Dutch clergyman and astronomer David Fabricius, who could not accept Johannes Kepler's discovery of elliptical planetary orbits. Why? Because the circle is so pure and perfect that reason must reject anything less. "With your ellipse," Fabricius wrote Kepler, "you abolish the circularity and uniformity of the motions, which appears to me increasingly absurd the more profoundly I think about it." No matter that, using Tycho Brahe's most exhaustive astronomical observations in history, Kepler had empirically demonstrated that the planets orbit elliptically.

This conflict between faith and science had mercifully abated over the past four centuries as each grew to permit the other its own independent sphere. What we are witnessing now is a frontier violation by the forces of religion. This new attack claims that because there are gaps in evolution, they therefore must be filled by a divine intelligent designer.

How many times do we have to rerun the Scopes "monkey trial"? There are gaps in science everywhere. Are we to fill them all with divinity? There were gaps in Newton's universe. They were ultimately filled by Einstein's revisions. There are gaps in Einstein's universe, great chasms between it and quantum theory. Perhaps they are filled by God. Perhaps not. But it is certainly not science to merely declare it so.

To teach faith as science is to undermine the very idea of science, which is the acquisition of new knowledge through hypothesis, experimentation and evidence. To teach it as science is to encourage the supercilious caricature of America as a nation in the thrall of religious authority. To teach it as science is to discredit the welcome recent advances in permitting the public expression of religion. Faith can and should be proclaimed from every mountaintop and city square. But it has no place in science class. To impose it on the teaching of evolution is not just to invite ridicule but to earn it.


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1 posted on 08/01/2005 10:58:14 AM PDT by wallcrawlr
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By CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER


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2 posted on 08/01/2005 10:58:49 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: wallcrawlr; Dataman
When I saw the subtitle, To teach faith as science is to undermine both, I thought it might be a critique of the Darwinian establishment that has done just that for decades.

Disappointing.

Dan
Biblical Christianity BLOG

3 posted on 08/01/2005 11:00:49 AM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: wallcrawlr
But nothing could do more to undermine this most salutary restoration than the new and gratuitous attempts to invade science, and most particularly evolution, with religion.

Nothing could do more to undermine the integrity of science than to undermine and suppress questions regarding the theory of evolution.

Oh, they're already doing that.

Nuff said.

4 posted on 08/01/2005 11:01:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: wallcrawlr

The real problem is that we are being taught science as faith.


5 posted on 08/01/2005 11:01:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: wallcrawlr

I usually like Krauthammer, but he's out of his element here.


6 posted on 08/01/2005 11:03:49 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkes.)
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To: BenLurkin
The real problem is that we are being taught science as faith.

If you're talking about the press releases of Green Peace, then you have a point.

If you're talking about evolution, then you don't.

7 posted on 08/01/2005 11:04:28 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: wallcrawlr

What a laugh. They see nothing wrong with teaching THEORY as FACT. What is undermined there? Scientific integrity, thats what.

The Evolution THEORY is just that, stop teaching it as rote fact and I do not have near the problem with it.


8 posted on 08/01/2005 11:07:25 AM PDT by ICE-FLYER (God bless and keep the United States of America)
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To: wallcrawlr
Both sides of the argument is right..... They are trying to compare apples to oranges.... One is spirit and one is flesh..
Figure it out....
9 posted on 08/01/2005 11:08:24 AM PDT by timdel33
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10 posted on 08/01/2005 11:09:12 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: wallcrawlr

"To teach faith as science is to undermine the very idea of science"

... which is as good an argument against evolution as in favor of it.


11 posted on 08/01/2005 11:10:36 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: wallcrawlr

To assume that faith is scientifically impossible is both stupid and faithless.

Anyway i'm off to chase a guy that spontanously morphed from an ape.


12 posted on 08/01/2005 11:11:10 AM PDT by kharaku (G3 (http://www.cobolsoundsystem.com/mp3s/unreleased/evewasanape.mp3))
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To: trisham
I usually like Krauthammer, but he's out of his element here.

You do know that Krauthammer is an MD don't you?

I think he's right in his element. A well spoken conservative that knows his science.

13 posted on 08/01/2005 11:11:33 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: ICE-FLYER
The Evolution THEORY is just that, stop teaching it as rote fact and I do not have near the problem with it.

They teach music as THEORY too. You gonna claim that music may not exist.

Your problem is you either don't know what a scientific theory is. Or you've been told, but you've ignored it.

It's probably the latter. Creationists are remarkably impervious to information.

14 posted on 08/01/2005 11:14:06 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: kharaku
Anyway i'm off to chase a guy that spontanously morphed from an ape.

If that's your understanding of evolution, then I see why you're confused.

15 posted on 08/01/2005 11:15:25 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: wallcrawlr

Brilliant Statement: "Faith can and should be proclaimed from every mountaintop and city square. But it has no place in science class. To impose it on the teaching of evolution is not just to invite ridicule but to earn it."


16 posted on 08/01/2005 11:16:34 AM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: kharaku
Anyway i'm off to chase a guy that spontanously morphed from an ape.

Why would you want to chase a cartoonlike straw-man misrepresentation of what evolutionary biology actually maintains?

Folks, if you're going to try to critique science -- or even ridicule it -- it would help if you actually learned at least a little bit of it, so that your remarks are vaguely on target, instead of just expressions of your own misunderstanding.

17 posted on 08/01/2005 11:17:33 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: narby
Your problem is you either don't know what a scientific theory is. Or you've been told, but you've ignored it. It's probably the latter. Creationists are remarkably impervious to information.

Ah, but we're here to help. From The List-O-Links:
The scientific method.
What's a Scientific Theory?
The Theory of Evolution. Excellent introductory encyclopedia article.
Is Evolution Science? It certainly is. Here's why.

Another service of
Darwin Central
The conspiracy that cares

18 posted on 08/01/2005 11:18:25 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas. The List-O-Links is at my homepage.)
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To: wallcrawlr

I know of no one who wants to teach faith as science. I agree with that. I also believe we should not teach science as faith either.


19 posted on 08/01/2005 11:18:38 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: PatrickHenry

*reinforcements arrive from the west*


20 posted on 08/01/2005 11:19:02 AM PDT by bobdsmith
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