Posted on 07/31/2005 7:41:22 AM PDT by conservativecorner
What is your source for your assertion that the vast majority of Americans want the Fed. Govt to fund killing embryos? I'd love to read it.
You've bought into the lie--hook, line and sinker.
Stem cell research has been going on for years. Embryonic stem cells are not as useful as adult or umbilical cord stem cells. The debate over "stem cell research" has been framed by the liberal media and the pro-death forces as "necessary" and "life saving" only as it pertains to cells from 1) embryos created specifically for the research and 2) aborted fetuses.
Stem cells from the umbilical cord and from adults have been used in remarkably successful experiments. In order to preserve a culture of life in our society, we must vocally oppose embryonic stem cell research so as not to slide further down the slippery slope to moral oblivion and create a backhanded acceptance of abortion--"but we NEED abortion--it yields all these necessary stem cells".
Stem cell research, in and of itself, is necessary and valid. It offers great hope to the paralyzed and brain damaged and even might yield a source of "new" organs for those whose organs are damaged or defective. But to create the illusion that we can only perform this research if we destroy human life is wrong, wrong, wrong and I am surprised that Dr. Frist is buying into it!
Yes they have. Through their selection of representatives and Senators who write the laws.
"You've bought into the lie--hook, line and sinker. "
For God's sake, we're talking about stems cells that are going to be THROWN INTO THE GARBAGE!! Do you understand that? The garbage! They aren't going to develop into a baby like a fetus, they don't even have the potential to do so like a frozen embyro. These are microscopic cells on a petri dish that are going to be thrown away.
If there's a one chance in 1,000 that these cells will help cure diseases or provide treatments, any non-fanatical person should be for it. I swear, sometimes I think we've got people on our side who would fit in very well with the Mullahs in Iran, if they were of a different religion.
I do not support Frist. If he ever runs for President, he will never get my vote.
What boils me is how lieberals can be so gaul-darned mad at the terrorists for killing well over 3,000 innocent Americans on 9/11, but can in the same breath support laws that allow over 3,000 innocent babies to be killed EVERY DAY, 365 DAYS A YEAR. And that's just in this country.
This "research" is just another way to get that camel's nose under the tent.
There are other Republicans such as Congressman Vito Fossella of Staten Island,who have deserted their conservative constituents on this issue.
Frist said, the other day, that he has been supporting this at least as long ago as 2001.
I wonder if Frist is too proud to change his mind, even though his information is outdated by discoveries of the last 4 years.
From your lips, to God's ears.
I wonder if the Big Guy agrees with you.
Where do you think those cells are created?
1) aborted babies
2) embryos that are created for the sole purpose of harvesting the cells and being destroyed.
Do you understand that?
Alot has been proven with regard to adult vs. embryonic stem cells in the last four years. I think you're right.
He is a member of the medical community and there is widespread acceptance of embryonic stem cell research in that community, fueled, in part, by the quest for the almighty Federal Grant Money which may play into this as well.
I see..so I guess you don't have a problem the the Islamo-facist segment of the Muslim community freely excercising their religion and their sacred duty to destroy Western Civilization and kill all of the infidels, do you?
Of course the exercise of religion is anathema to the left and to you as well I suspect.
Yeah, it's such an "anathema" to me that I am hurredly writing this reply before I leave with my family to go to church this morning.
And it isn't my problem that you are thinking so emotionally that you react the way all liberals do -yes, it is you who is acting like a liberal guided strictly by your emotions. My reply applies to all government spending, regardless of the issue. Is it okay for the libs to not pay their taxes because of a perceived (and made up) sacred duty to "stop the killing in Iraq" etc or whatever they dont like.
I will fight the good fight against government funded stem-cell research, but should my side lose, I will still pay all of my taxes just as I do now, even though I don't like many things the government spends money on, especially taxpayer funded abortion.
Do you pay taxes? If so, some of your money is being used for taxpayer funded abortions for pregnant teens, welfare moms, and illegal alien moms. That's right, if you pay taxes, you are helping to fund abortions! I don't like it either, but I'm not stupid enough to think that I don't have to pay all of my taxes. As I said in an earlier post, if you are so sure that it is your sacred duty to not pay taxes that help fund what you consider immoral government spending, I invite you to give it a try and see if the nice folks at the I.R.S. agree with you! It would be interesting to see how sympathetic the I.R.S. would be to your "grave sin" argument.
Yes they have. Through their selection of representatives and Senators who write the laws.
You have a tremendous grasp of the obvious! (and you have to know that was not what I was talking about) For the third and last time, try and file an "ala-carte" tax return and see what happens.
Flame away, but I gotta go to church, back in a couple of hours.
Who can argue with such an intellectual and intelligent response?
My feeling is that some MD's like to sneer at researchers who think it is more productive, and more ethical, to fund Non-ESCR.
Sort of like the self-satisfied MDs and MSM who used to sneer at the idea of prions
(1) "Since the press was usually unable to understand the scientific arguments and they are usually keen to write about any controversy, the personal attacks of the naysayers at times became very vicious." Prusiner's Nobel Prize autobiography
I haven't tried that, personally, but some people have.
I prefer the "write your congressman" route.
Yeah, I know! Life in a free democratic society really sucks 'cause sometimes I don't get my own way while sometimes others get theirs . Right on, Bro...couldn't agree more. (sarcasm off)
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