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Jane Fonda's second coming (Cal Thomas)
townhall.com ^ | 07/28/05 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 07/28/2005 1:19:30 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Jane Fonda's second coming

Cal Thomas

July 28, 2005

We've all seen them: aging athletes, beyond their prime, trying to squeeze out one more fight, or one more season, but failing to bring back their glory days.

That seems an appropriate analogy for the return of Jane Fonda to the political stage. Having made her first movie in many years ("Monster-in-Law") that was a box office success, Fonda apparently thinks her new visibility gives her a certain credibility to comment on the Iraq war.

She has announced plans for an anti-war bus tour next March. Why is she waiting so long? The war might be over by then. The bus will run on vegetable oil. How 1960s! Will the riders grow their hair long, smoke pot, dress in tie-dyed T-shirts and sing "Blowin' in the Wind"? Fonda says she will be joined by her daughter and some families of Iraq War veterans. She says veterans came up to her during her book tour, encouraging her to protest the war.

In her memoir, "My Life So Far," and on numerous interview shows, Fonda has repeatedly apologized for going to North Vietnam in 1972 where she sat on an anti-aircraft gun and said things critical of her country that encouraged the enemy to fight on.

The North Vietnamese used her comments as propaganda in an effort to demoralize American troops and diminish the resolve of prisoners of war. Just what does she think will be the result of her forthcoming bus tour if not to encourage the terrorists and insurgents now fighting Americans and Iraqis in Iraq?

With high privilege also goes increased responsibility. If youthful indiscretion is an excuse she has used to explain her anti-war activities more than 30 years ago, what explanation will she have in her now mature years - temporary insanity?  

"I have not taken a stand on any war since Vietnam," Fonda was quoted as saying. "I carry a lot of baggage from that." She certainly does, which makes it all the more perplexing why she is intent on adding even more baggage. It's peculiar that Fonda only protests what Americans do to resist evil, but she led no protests against Saddam Hussein's murderous regime that practiced evil. Why is that?

Jane Fonda might be described as one who is "always learning, but never able to acknowledge the truth," as the Bible she once read and claimed to believe says about people of shifting convictions and allegiances (see 2 Timothy 3:7). Except that she does not learn, much less arrive at any truth.

When Fonda announced she had been born again by accepting Christ as her savior, I investigated and concluded she was genuinely serious about her new faith. I wrote a column urging people not to judge or condemn her. Sadly, I must now write that by her own words, Jane Fonda has moved away from that initial faith into a universalism in which she says there are many ways to God and Jesus is not the only path. She has denied the essence of Christianity. One cannot truly be called a Christian unless one believes the uniqueness of the life, atoning death and resurrection of Christ.

When Jane Fonda protested the Vietnam War there were just three television networks and few media outlets for those who opposed her actions. We are now in a new media environment. While the major networks may practice their usual celebrity suck-up, cable television and talk radio are not about to give her a free pass. Look for Vietnam veterans still angry at "Hanoi Jane" to turn out along the bus route to protest her protest, then and now. It could get ugly.

Jane Fonda has every right to freedom of speech, but so do those who believe she caused enough harm in the Vietnam War that they will not allow her to escape accountability or undermine America's efforts in this one. America survived its pullout from Vietnam. It cannot survive a similar outcome in this war. That's the big difference that Jane Fonda doesn't understand.

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To: Max7
Put differently, the standard for Salvation is very low, because the ransom was so very high

Absolutely true, else I would be in deep dodo. I think Billy just made a mistake, in trying to be PC with Larry King, but it is an idea that is gaining strength.

Joh 5:39* Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

81 posted on 07/28/2005 3:07:17 PM PDT by itsahoot (Reagan promised to abolish the Dept of Education and the 55 mph Limit. Which was least important?)
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To: MeanWestTexan; All
She wants the publicity.
Ignoring her is the best strategy.

I must disagree. I have no idea how old you are, but as a teen and young adult, I watched this despicably pocrap with her commie buddies tear apart our country, our military and our war effort.

Her/their actions went completely unchallenged as patriots went to war and attended funerals of our fallen heroes. We had no idea how to react to these wild animals that had taken to the streets. I witnessed the outcome of their treasonous actions. I will not sit back and let them do it again.

One of Jihad Jane's buddies from the old days, Gael Murphy, is still a professional protester and heads up Code-Pink. This commie group sets up every Friday night at the GATE to Walter Reed, hanging their anti-war banner on the fence of WR and holding signs that say "Maimed for a Lie". Until the DC Chapter of FR started counter-protesting these creeps got away with it. For the past several weeks FReepers have outnumbered them. As our numbers go up, their numbers are going down.

Soldiers and their families stop to thank us for being there and supporting our troops. Horns honk continuously to show support for AMERICA as they pass us. Last week the pink-o's were down to 3, and we were 18 strong. One soldier had just had surgery and told his visiting wife to go out and check on the FReepers.

Ignore her ......... HELL NO - not again!

82 posted on 07/28/2005 3:15:01 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: smoothsailing

It should also be remembered that her movies were being shown at military bases in the US and overseas at the same time she was in N. Vietnam.

I saw BABARELLA playing at bothMarch AFB and Little Rock AFB and Kadina, Okinawa. 1968


83 posted on 07/28/2005 3:19:38 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Islam, the religion of the criminally insane.)
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To: Justanobody

Well then, at least hold up a "SAT JANE" sign.

MWT, Sr. was in Vietnam circa 1963 to 1971
MWT, Jr. was a kid.


84 posted on 07/28/2005 3:20:26 PM PDT by MeanWestTexan
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To: Justanobody
You've got it exactly right.

NEVER FORGET

As always,Justanobody,you prove you are far more than your screen-name.

And as always,FRegards

85 posted on 07/28/2005 3:49:04 PM PDT by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon Turtle Co.)
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To: JZelle
Kerry and who else?

God help us, probably John McCain.

86 posted on 07/28/2005 3:54:08 PM PDT by Ole Okie
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To: itsahoot

I'll believe that for myself when I actually hear Billy Graham say that one can reach God through any other source than Jesus Christ. If you can produce the quote, date, etc., I would listen for myself. But until I hear him say that, I will not believe it.


87 posted on 07/28/2005 3:56:16 PM PDT by Max7
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To: JZelle

Kerry and many surviving Viet Cong.


88 posted on 07/28/2005 3:57:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Mohammad spent more than half his life killing infidels)
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To: smoothsailing
Oh great. Hell has unleashed the alpha bitch of the high-frequency communist pack. I wish that shrieking harpy would stay home and drag her ass across the carpet. Thank God that everyone eventually dies.
89 posted on 07/28/2005 4:07:28 PM PDT by Jaysun (Name one war — anywhere — that had a "timetable".)
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To: cubreporter

We had a thread about Jane accepting Christ a while back. I'm glad she cleared things up.

I think I might join the freepers protesting along her route.


90 posted on 07/28/2005 4:37:29 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: Kevin OMalley

bet ya she doesn't even go through with it.


91 posted on 07/28/2005 5:25:38 PM PDT by cubreporter (I trust Rush. He has done more for this country than any of us will ever know! :))
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To: MeanWestTexan
I assume you are MWT Jr?
If so, how does Sr feel about this pocrap?

What does "SAT Jane" stand for?

BTW, I believe part of the problem is we have ignored "these people/things" for far to long. One is in the US Senate, one is legal council for Saddam, others have set up communist front groups like ANSWER and Code-Pink. The names of these people all go back to the 60's and 70's.

They were ignored, much like the terrorist activities that were perpetrated toward our country for more than 20 years. They both were able to gain support and gin up their activities unnoticed by the masses.

92 posted on 07/28/2005 5:31:57 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: smoothsailing
Thanks. This crap really sets me off.
93 posted on 07/28/2005 5:33:32 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: Max7
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/billy_graham_vincent_peale.htm Dr. Billy Graham recently told Parade Magazine, "I fully adhere to the fundamental tenets of the Christian faith for myself and my ministry, but as an American, I respect other paths to God." Please compare "I respect other paths to God" saith 33rd Degree Freemason Billy Graham "no man cometh unto the Father, but by me." saith the LORD JESUS CHRIST Who is right, Billy or God? Billy knows the scriptures well. He has read those verses many times so how can he plead ignorance. If there were other paths to God then Christ died in vain. When Billy says there are 'other paths to God' he must believe that Jesus lied when he spoke of only one path. If Billy believed what Jesus said was true he would have never made it sound as if there were other paths to God. Below is the October 1997 interview of Graham by Robert Schuller on "The Hour of Power": SCHULLER - What do you think is the future of Christianity? GRAHAM - I don't think we are going to see a great sweeping revival that will turn the whole world to Christianity at any time. I think James answered that at the first council at Jerusalem when he said that God's purpose for this age is to call out a people for his name (Acts 15:14). And that is what God is doing today. He is calling people out of the world for his name, whether they come from the Muslim world or the Buddhist world or the Christian or non-believing world, they are members of the body of Christ because they have been called by God. They may not even know the name of Jesus but they know in their heart that they need something that they don't have and they turn to the only light that they have and I think they are saved and that they are going to be with us in heaven. SCHULLER - What I hear you saying is that it is possible for Jesus Christ to come into the heart, the soul, the life of someone even though they have been born in darkness and never had exposure to the Bible. Is that a correct interpretation of what you are saying? GRAHAM - Yes it is, because I believe that. I've met people in various parts of the world and in travel situations who have never seen a Bible or heard about the Bible or of Jesus Christ -- but believe in their heart that there is a God and they try to live a life separate from those around them. SCHULLER - You don't know how thrilled I am to hear you say that. There is a wideness in God's mercy. GRAHAM - There is. Do a little Googleing for yourself
94 posted on 07/28/2005 5:56:00 PM PDT by itsahoot (Reagan promised to abolish the Dept of Education and the 55 mph Limit. Which was least important?)
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To: gopwinsin04
Fonda had that orgasmic smile after the spitting incident. I bet she gushed all about to her pinko friends. Its all about Jane. If everyone would ignore her, she would end the tour half way and rush home and down a bottle of Nembutal.
95 posted on 07/28/2005 5:59:24 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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To: cubreporter

Still a good excuse to have a party.


96 posted on 07/28/2005 6:06:48 PM PDT by Kevin OMalley (No, not Freeper#95235, Freeper #1165: Charter member, What Was My Login Club.)
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To: pikachu

Look Ouuuuuuuuuuuuut !


97 posted on 07/28/2005 6:19:43 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: Zack Nguyen

Is this accurate? I thought she apologized for having her picture taken, but not for going to North Vietnam in the first place. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.


You're right. That hag never apologized for what she did. She's nothing but a liberal slut. I look forward to her tour because there are MILLION of us Nam vets(and families) out there that are likely to give her a piece of their minds.


98 posted on 07/28/2005 6:52:21 PM PDT by conshack ((Our porous southern border WILL result in another terrorist attack))
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To: smoothsailing

Cal thomas and Jane fonda.

One old fogey has-been talking about and even bigger old fogey has-been


99 posted on 07/28/2005 7:19:27 PM PDT by rcocean (Copyright is theft and loved by Hollywood socialists)
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To: KC_for_Freedom
I have another take on Jane Fonda, I've thought for years that she has a need to be abused by men. Her father was remote and unloving, her husbands have all used and abused her, yet repeatedly she took up whatever beliefs these men had and followed them until ultimately she was discarded. Yes, I know that in many cases she got the divorce, but always after it was apparent the men had little continuing use for her.

Anyone remember when she did the tomahawk for Turner's baseball team--remember how un-pc that was, so why did she, a very pc woman do it? Because he wanted her to and because she expects to be bossed and degraded by men. I suppose it is all a result of her relationship, or non-relationship, with her father.

I see this bus trip as her last great effort to be abused publicly and be the perpetual victim for all time (in her opinion). She'll probably be very happy to pose with spittle and slime running down her face as it shows that once again she is the victim. Yes it's all about her, not all the military men and women who laid down their lives. It would tickle me if no one showed up for her, either pro or con, the one worst thing that could happen to her would be for her to be ignored. She is just an old woman making a fool of herself.
100 posted on 07/28/2005 7:23:42 PM PDT by pepperdog
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