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FINAL CAFTA VOTE ROLL CALL - How did your Congressman Vote?
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Posted on 07/28/2005 8:13:58 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: shield

That's the only reason I supported CAFTA. If you want to talk about "Buy American" It starts at home!! It does take more time to check the labels but it's worth it. I'd rather pay more for a "Made in the USA" product and do without a foreign made one, only buying if it was a real necessity.


141 posted on 07/28/2005 9:31:00 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006)
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To: TChris

Excellent e-mail to your congressman.


142 posted on 07/28/2005 9:33:26 AM PDT by Syds Dad
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To: shield
"The choice was CAFTA or give Central America to China

The same traitors that gave us this also gave us China. China would not be such a threat without Most Favored Trade status. This will not make China go away. They do business in South America too, Hell the own the Panama Canal. Why do our Representatives insist on giving away the farm? I don't feel good about being a Republican today. Without manufacturing, our country will grow weak.

143 posted on 07/28/2005 9:41:25 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum)
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To: kenth
Were the other countries playing by the same rules as us, then it could be called "free trade".

Exactly, without free economies on both sides of the table, they ought to rename this treaty: Central American Economic Affirmative Action

144 posted on 07/28/2005 9:41:33 AM PDT by Egon (By the way, I took the liberty of fertilizing your caviar.)
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To: Tulane
"Rediculous...how was this act unconstitutional????????"

"The Constitution clearly grants Congress alone the authority to regulate international trade."  "Neither Congress nor the President can give this authority away by treaty, any more than they can repeal the First Amendment by treaty." -Ron Paul...

The plain text of Article I, Section 8, Clause 3 is incontrovertible...

"The Congress shall have Power To... regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes..."

CAFTA (along with the other so called "free" trade agreements) has clearly given that power over to the World Trade Organization... A bunch of foreign and unelected bureaucrats are now illegally controlling/regulating US trade. Yes... I have a major problem with that...

And again... Most all of the support for CAFTA on the floor last night centered on the belief that CAFTA was badly needed to help these Central American Countries... The debate was overwhelmingly about the benfit of CAFTA for THEM... not US. Not too complicated IMHO.

145 posted on 07/28/2005 9:42:34 AM PDT by Ex-expromissor (Know Your Enemy)
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To: Happy2BMe

Lobbyi$t$ win another.


146 posted on 07/28/2005 9:45:06 AM PDT by ex-snook (Protectionism is Patriotism in both war and trade.)
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To: DumpsterDiver

Hmmm.

I thought I read that Taylor was supposed to vote "nay" or was leaning that way.
"Rep. Taylor said, “In 1994 when President Clinton was urging me to vote for NAFTA, which he signed into law when it was passed by the then-Democratic majority, I refused to support it and tried to get the bill, if passed, spread over some 10 to 15 years in order to give our region an opportunity to transition. … I have voted against all of these trade pacts and will vote against CAFTA because although CAFTA isn’t as bad as NAFTA, it still, like all the trade pacts, fails to provide and monitor a system of symbiotic trade relations, i.e. guaranteed equal trade rather than just dumping goods, either legally or illegally, on our businesses in this country.”
[Citizen Times, Asheville]

So what happened??

Wonder if his abstension was greased with a little lard?


147 posted on 07/28/2005 9:47:28 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Colorado Doug
Hell the own the Panama Canal

I think you'd better look at the facts on this. When did China purchase the Panama Canal? I'd appreciate you posting factual information on this purchase transaction, please.

148 posted on 07/28/2005 9:50:32 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: hedgetrimmer; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; hershey; TomInNJ; ...

#138 - more insight on CAFTA thought process.


149 posted on 07/28/2005 9:51:21 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: w6ai5q37b

I think you should read the Constitution.


150 posted on 07/28/2005 9:52:38 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Gipper08; RockinRight
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Ronald Reagan's Big Mistake

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151 posted on 07/28/2005 9:52:56 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: cripplecreek
I see that my one term congressman sold out.

Mike Rogers, too. I just don't get it.

152 posted on 07/28/2005 9:52:58 AM PDT by grellis (Funkle Queen)
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To: Ex-expromissor

Did Congress not just vote to ratify the agreement...How was Congress left out of the process? Good lord, this is law school 101 (or civics 101 for that matter).


153 posted on 07/28/2005 9:53:58 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: TheSpottedOwl

We want to sell in these markets, too. Think Washington Apples.


154 posted on 07/28/2005 9:56:06 AM PDT by Tulane
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To: Lekker 1

The first time I agree with my reps point of view........


155 posted on 07/28/2005 9:57:28 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: Tulane

Congress did not write the agreement, nor, under the rules of "free trade" are they allowed to modify the CAFTA.

If you are the only institution that is authorized by Congress to regulate trade, and you don't write the trade agreements and you can only vote yes or no, not ammend or change the agreement, that sounds pretty unconsitutional to me. Or should we call it anti-Consitutional?


156 posted on 07/28/2005 9:58:11 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: ohioWfan

Take a look at this thread...I found your rebuttals on the other CAFTA thread were so outstanding...thought you might like to see how the neg posting continues...emotional over facts. ;o)


157 posted on 07/28/2005 9:59:55 AM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Tulane
Free trade pacts like CAFTA are good because it opens markets for the US economy that were formally closed, it allows cheaper goods to flow into the US (building our ability to purchase goods at cheaper prices), and enhances our economy by creating jobs.

Oh, now I get it. This works kind of like our trade with China.

158 posted on 07/28/2005 10:01:14 AM PDT by Colorado Doug (Diversity is divisive. E. Pluribus Unum)
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To: grellis; Happy2BMe; Dan from Michigan
Mike Rogers, too. I just don't get it.

Their are good reasons for CAFTA. However,

their wouldn't be a CAFTA if Clinton's decision to grant most-favored-nation trading status to China didn't happen.

Cause and effect.

My comments about CAFTA.

159 posted on 07/28/2005 10:04:07 AM PDT by Major_Risktaker
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To: Major_Risktaker
their wouldn't be a CAFTA if Clinton's decision to grant most-favored-nation trading status to China didn't happen

Yes there would. The decision to create a regional trade bloc in the western hemisphere is much older than China's MFN status.
160 posted on 07/28/2005 10:06:26 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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