Posted on 07/27/2005 5:42:46 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina
Two hours of debate on CAFTA began a few minutes ago. The vote, if the schedule holds, should be sometime around 10:30 PM EDT.
FReepers have sharp differences here, and the issue doesn't cut cleanly across liberal/conservative lines (however we define those terms). Hopefully, opinions can be set forth in a civil manner.
I thought it was a good plan at first because it helps our farmers, but it is also good for illegal immigrants-not good.
CAFTA ping....
I started watching about 20-30 minutes ago, and there was quite a "food fight" between Charlie Rangel and Bill Thomas....WHOA!
Tempers are flairing on the House floor tonight!
Thomas has control of the repub time?
oh boy.
He came out spitting mad---I wish I could remember what all he said, but he was really getting on to some of the dems for saying insulting things about the countries in the CAFTA Treaty....
He mentioned Barbara Lee -Cal. by name...and then RAngel stood up and ---Oh, geez, I never can follow Rangel's speeches...he is always all over the place.
Hoping to see some debate on this thread that will clarify CAFTA for me. I was not thrilled when NAFTA went through, but my inclination in regard to CAFTA is that it is a politically astute move, although if states' rights are removed by CAFTA, I have a problem with it. I admit I haven't familiarized myself with all the implications there of as well as I should have, so feel free to inform me.
This dem up from TX musta missed the memo from Pelosi.
The undecided minnesota rep gilchrest has just said he will vote no, but he would have voted yes if they have fixed some of the worries he has.
They rushed this vote, the votes aren't there yet, they should have had this vote after the recess. After the recess they would also pick up another vote from the open seat portman left.
There are only 7 dems on board and upwards of 25 reps definately against.
Cafta looks like it will lose by about 223-210 vote spread.
Oh no. It's the other Levin...
Pray that this CAFTA thing dies a violent death in the US House!
Delay wouldn't be having this vote if it wasn't going to pass.
I'm all for it, the chicken little rhetoric from the extreme right has even strengthened my support more.
CAFTA specifically goes out of its way to say that it doesn't change the laws regarding immigration in any fashion. So, it's a straw man argument.
I guess this gives me a clue on where I should stand on this issue. :^)
SUMMARY AS OF:
6/23/2005--Introduced.
Dominican Republic-Central America-United States Free Trade Agreement Implementation Act - Approves the Dominican Republic-Central America-United States-Free Trade Agreement entered into with the Governments of Costa Rica, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua (CAFTA-DR), and the statement of administrative action proposed to implement the Agreement, both submitted to Congress.
Authorizes the President to proclaim such actions, and other appropriate officers of the U.S. Government to issue such regulations, as may be necessary to ensure appropriate implementation of any provision of this Act that takes effect on the date the Agreement enters into force.
Provides for: (1) administration of dispute settlement proceedings; (2) arbitration of claims against the United States covered by the Agreement; and (3) specified tariff modifications.
Directs the Secretary of the Treasury, in certain circumstances, to assess additional duties, calculated according to a specified formula, on agriculture safeguard goods included in the Schedule of the United States to the Agreement that qualify as an originating good under this Act. Excepts from additional duties any good subject to import relief under this Act or to any action to facilitate positive adjustment to import competition
under the Trade Act of 1974.
Prescribes requirements for: (1) enforcement of textile and apparel rules of origin; (2) retroactive application for certain liquidations and reliquidations of textile or apparel goods; (3) reliquidation of certain entries; (3) actions for relief from imports benefiting from the Agreement; (5) certain textile and apparel safeguard measures; (6) presidential actions with regard to U.S. International Trade Commission findings on whether imports of articles from a CAFTA-DR country are a substantial cause of serious injury or threat to U.S. articles and industries; (7) designation of CAFTA-DR countries as beneficiary countries under the Caribbean Basin Economic Recovery Act; and (8) periodic presidential reports to Congress on the implementation of the Agreement, and periodic meetings between the Secretary of Labor and the labor ministers of the CAFTA-DR countries on labor obligations and labor capacity-building.
Amends the Trade Agreements Act of 1979 to make products or services of any foreign country or instrumentality that is a party to the Agreement eligible for U.S. government procurement.
All the leftists against it. Makes you wonder what the hell the opponents here at FR are thinking.
Thanks for the link!
me too.....
I was at first skeptical, but all the right people oppose it...the far left and far right, Nancy Pelosi, AFL-CIO, Patsy, etc
""Pray that this CAFTA thing dies a violent death in the US House!""
This folks is pure unadulturated hate
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