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A planted story gone bad
Power Line ^ | 7/26/05 | Paul Mirengoff

Posted on 07/26/2005 3:09:01 PM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

Yesterday we noted, based on a column by Jonathan Turley, that Senator Durbin appeared to be flirting with the idea of holding John Roberts' deeply held Catholic beliefs against him. Turley reported that, when Roberts met the Senator, Durbin had interrogated Roberts about how he would handle a hypothetical conflict between Catholic principles and the law. The hypothetical is more than a little far-fetched because, to my knowledge, Catholicism doesn't make it a sin to declare bad laws constitutional.

Today, according to the Washington Times, Durbin and his staff are denying that the religious interrorgation took place and that the Senator or anyone on his staff told Turley otherwise. But Turley insists that the information came straight from Durbin, when the two met in the green room at one the Sunday gab shows.

Who is telling the truth, Turley or Durbin? Hugh Hewitt puts his money on the law professor, not the politician, and who can blame him? Says Hugh:

    I don't think Professor Turley would make up such a potentially important statement. I think Dick "you'd think I was describing Nazis" Durbin is a double-talking hack who wanted to plant a story but didn't think Turley would quote him. It is pretty clear that Durbin lied to Turley, and that is a warning to the nominee to always have a witness with him when he talks to Democrats.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: durbin; johnroberts; jonathanturley; news; powerlineblog; scotus; turley
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Sen. Dustbin and the rest of the left deserve credit for one thing. They have created a situation where Evangelicals, Roman Catholics and Orthodoox Jews see a common thread to admire in each other.


21 posted on 07/26/2005 4:02:23 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: softwarecreator

Msybe you never heard about the concerns about John F. Kennedy running for president and being catholic?


22 posted on 07/26/2005 4:08:28 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO because I'm too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

I predicted several days ago in a post I can't locate that this would happen as soon as word got out Roberts was a Catholic. It smacks of prejudice and religious discrimination (Oh, ACLU where are you when we need you?). Typical Demon-rat Durtbin--the Repubs should play this up. After all Catholics have traditionally voted largely Democrat. Dirtbag may have shot himself in the foot.


23 posted on 07/26/2005 4:14:20 PM PDT by pankot
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To: Eagle Eye
Msybe you never heard about the concerns about John F. Kennedy running for president and being catholic?

No, sorry I didn't get that politically active during JFK's presidential bid because I was in diapers at the time.

24 posted on 07/26/2005 4:51:43 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Wil H
True.  Not a peep.
25 posted on 07/26/2005 4:52:22 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Yet the Catholic Kennedys are somehow acceptible, nay, elevated to Godhood?


26 posted on 07/26/2005 4:53:37 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection...)
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To: softwarecreator

Yeah, all history began with your first steps.


27 posted on 07/26/2005 5:00:53 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (I'm a RINO because I'm too conservative to be a real Republican.)
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To: mware
I think they sandbagged Turley. Turley claims two of those in attendance besides Roberts and Durban were the source of the story.

This is on Hugh Hewitt's site right now.... But in an interview last night, Professor Turley said Mr. Durbin himself had described the conversation to him on Sunday morning, including the statement about recusal.

Could Durbin be that stupid? Well, we are talking about Durbin here.

28 posted on 07/26/2005 5:33:55 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (Are you now, or have you ever been a member of the Federalist Society?)
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To: dubyaismypresident
Hannity and Colmes just finished discussing the Turley op-ed.

I guess it is a matter of who to believe, Jonathan Turley who is a respected law professor, or DICK Durban.

29 posted on 07/26/2005 6:13:34 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: dubyaismypresident

Durban is WAY over his head messing with Jonathan Turley, just about all the cable networks discuss Constitutional issues with him.


30 posted on 07/26/2005 6:15:50 PM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

He's got a lot of nerve first of all for claiming to be a Catholic... then to question a true practicing Catholic?

Nothing is worse than a Catholic that doesn't practice their faith...

Don't worry, we Catholics that do practice our faith were down his throat immediately, hence the backpedaling.

Durbin and his ilk used this guy to shake it up...and he called them on it.


31 posted on 07/26/2005 8:21:13 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

Separation of Church and State except for Gitmo.


32 posted on 07/26/2005 8:23:45 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Wil H

I was a altar boy...Even though I am a Catholic...
(Sorry, can't remember after that...I hit the floor)

Third Debate


33 posted on 07/26/2005 8:25:00 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Wil H
being a Catholic is taboo

Only if you are a Republican.

John Kerry was never questioned about it, was he?

Cafeteria Catholics are OK with the Libs as long as they select the right menu items

Thou shall not kill murders - Good

Thou shall not kill Innocent babies - Bad

34 posted on 07/26/2005 8:39:27 PM PDT by still_learning (Will Rogers never met Dick Durbin)
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To: muir_redwoods
They have created a situation where Evangelicals, Roman Catholics and Orthodoox Jews see a common thread to admire in each other.

And now even Mormons seem main stream!

35 posted on 07/26/2005 8:53:23 PM PDT by still_learning (Will Rogers never met Dick Durbin)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
I think Dick "you'd think I was describing Nazis" Durbin is a double-talking hack who wanted to plant a story but didn't think Turley would quote him.

Nope - Durbin knew full well that he would be quoted by Turley, and that he would have to make a show of denying what he told Turley. Durbin was planting a seed here, hoping it sprout into a picture of John Roberts as some kind of religious extremist unable to separate his personal views from his legal judgement, and thus being unqualified to be any sort of judge, let alone a Supreme Court justice.

And as fertilizer for that seed, Durbin very cynically used the public's loathing and distrust of the media and it's gaggle of self-appointed "experts" who can be counted on to fill air time and column inches with their endless bloviating and pimping fpr the liberal cause. It's actually a rather clever strategy that could only be used by someone completely lacking in shame, and confirms just what a fungus Dick Durbin really is.

36 posted on 07/26/2005 9:08:39 PM PDT by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: softwarecreator

"We SERIOUSLY need to take our country back"
-----yeah, but,as Durbin might put it, that's just
what Al Qaeda wants to do. Let's not be like them......"


37 posted on 07/26/2005 9:11:52 PM PDT by willyboyishere
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection

"The hypothetical is more than a little far-fetched because, to my knowledge, Catholicism doesn't make it a sin to declare bad laws constitutional."

Good line, that misses the point. "Catholic" could be promoted to mean "would throw Roe". Expect more of this, they have nothing else so far.

Turley comes across as sincere, honest and thoughtful, not an idealogue.
Durbin is part-time lunatic fringe.

Trimmed with the razor, simple truth is likely correct...the story rings true.


38 posted on 07/26/2005 9:23:12 PM PDT by pending
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To: AliVeritas
So, liberal senator's are unbiased; and, the media that slants it's headlines (and stories) to the left while voting 80+% of the time for Democrat candidates are unbiased; but, one of the finest legal minds in our country is not only biased, but can't separate his wife's beliefs from the decisions he will hand down ON LAW!?

Somethings wrong with the premise
39 posted on 07/26/2005 10:23:03 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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To: pending
The Roe arguments in terms of legalizing/criminalizing abortion is a fallacious issue to argue. As a matter of law it deals only with respect to the universality of abortion "rights".

IIRC any review of Roe would at most return abortion legality to the states individually for its legal or criminal standing.

Obviously this would be a big step backward for the "pro-death society" since they would have to again fight 50+ battles instead of just one.
40 posted on 07/26/2005 10:32:26 PM PDT by Optimist (I think I'm beginning to see a pattern here.)
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