Tancredo on Hannity

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

Just a quick heads up. Hannity announced he will be talking with Tancredo regarding the "Mecca Remark". If I'm not mistaken, it will be one of the segments in the last hour of his radio program. I'll try to provide a link for online feed.

[gopwinsin04]

That was unbeliveable, what were those two talking about...

[r9etb]

It's not worth talking sense to these folks, zarf, unless you're bugging them for fun.

[highball]

"Please explain this parallel to me. How does the Soviet Union compare to Al-Qaeda? If the Soviet government nuked the U.S., the Soviet people would bear responsibility for that act. If Al-Qaeda attacks the U.S., do all Muslims everywhere bear responsibility for that act?"

That's why the comparison is ludicrous. Even worse, Tancredo's shooting his mouth off hampers our attempts to get the radicals ostracized around the world. We need to be winning hearts and minds in addition to military battles if the terrorists are to be vanquished from the globe.

The scary part is that some people *do* believe that all Muslims everywhere bear responsibility for Al-Qaeda.

[farmer18th]

the same thing of Reagan that you've said of Tancredo?

The left, and the testosterone challenged Republican middle, made fun of Reagan for the "evil empire" remarks, and only recanted after he proved how to "negotiate" with Bolsheviks. I suspect even Hugh Hewitt will eventually understand, challenged though he might be, that Tancredo understands reality better than he does.

Did anyone hear Hugh Hewitt, whining about how bad we made the Muslim "moderates" look? You would have thought making a Muslim liar look bad was worse than bombing an innocent English citizen.

[Stellar Dendrite]

"Yeah... I also heard "racist, racist" several times."

ah yes, a typical remark of the intellectually bankrupt left when they're cornered

[r9etb]

They would love that, wouldn't they?

I wouldn't mind it, either. Tancredo's mouth does more harm than good.

[hattend]

Who knows. Interviews like that are just so useless. But almost all the Sunday "news" shows have that crazy talk-over. I guess they figure it's cool and they don't want anybody to be able to make a point.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

It's amazing how the Tancredo bashers always resort to ad hominem attacks. Some lowly staffer at GOP headquarters' is in charge of hitting the F10 button that produces a list of anti-Tancredo remarks to be used for the day.

[TheeOhioInfidel]

We do not create the enemy. It exists independently of our attitudes and opinions. It is the very guise of religion that allows Islamofacism, unlike Communism, to flourish in a mecca of political correctness. As one talk show host who I normally am at odds with said, "It's time we called a spade a spade."


Tancredo on Islamofacism: hardline: We will confront the enemy(the enemy only respects a power stronger than itself).

Tancredo on illegal immigration: represents the will of the majority to generally stop the flood.

Tancredo on CAFTA: One of the few to connect it to increasingly lax immigration policy.

In all three areas labled an extremist by both parties, yet again he represents the will of the majority. This seems like a no-brainer to me.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"The Soviets were a country, not a religion. You do not defeat an ideology like his by creating more than a billiion enemies."

There is some thought in your post, but you are too quick to assume you are correct. Marxism is worship of government. That was Marx's ultimate goal. And you can see the worship of government in the left.

And you are correct that there are a billion muslims. It is no laughing matter to nuke Mecca. Once we are attacked by a nuclear strike, we must wipe out all major strongholds, not stopping with Mecca. There would be severe economic consequences, but we cannot tred lightly once we are nuked.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

It's not worth talking sense to these folks, zarf, unless you're bugging them for fun.

Yeah, we folks don't understand things like peace, negotiations, and appeasement. (Slinking back to my cave, dragging my wife behind by her hair)

[gopwinsin04]

I think they were dicussing the UK 'shoot to kill' policy, but I couldn't tell.

[r9etb]

It's not an ideology, genius, it's a cult.

It's an ideology.

And their goal is world domination.

Their goal is to start a global war of Islam vs. everybody else. Tancredo's suggestion plays directly into their hands.

They are already your enemy; they know it even if you don't.

Do you know your enemy? I gather from your comments that you do not.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"I wouldn't mind it, either. Tancredo's mouth does more harm than good."

So Carter was too right wing for you?

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

We need to be winning hearts and minds

Durbin? Is that you?

[Lancelot Jones]

"What do you think our strategy in dealing with the Soviets was? Mutually assured destruction."

Wrong.

The Cold War and Containment

Europe’s post-World War Two economy was in a shambles. Although the United States provided some economic assistance immediately after the war, the slow rate of economic recovery was such that the basic fabric of Western European civilization was being pulled apart. The United States feared that the failure of the democratic governments to cope with their fundamental economic and related social problems would open the door to communist opportunism -- external or internal. To counter that threat, Secretary of State George C. Marshall in 1947 proposed a massive program of American aid to help rebuild the shattered economies of Europe. The proposal was not initially presented as an anti-communist measure and the offer of aid was open to any European state.

In 1948, Congress endorsed the proposal and established the European Recovery Plan (under which 16 nations of Western Europe (later including West Germany) received $15 billion in loans and grants between 1948 and 1952. The European Recovery Plan, better known as the Marshall Plan, was also offered to Russia and other communist states, but it was declined by the Soviets, who denounced the program as an anti-communist effort. As it turned out, the European Recovery Plan did become anti-communist by application, and it emerged as an essential element of the containment policy

Containment, as a policy launched by the Truman Administration, was designed to frustrate Soviet attempts to expand their military, political, and economic base in Europe. The Greece-Turkey Aid Act of 1947 reflects the policy's initial application. In theory, the policy held that if the Soviet Republic could not expand its influence or borders, communism would eventually collapse of its own inherent weaknesses. The containment policy and its role in Cold War strategy took another turn when the United States joined with other nations in creating the North Atlantic Treaty Organization in 1949.

Source: The Management of Security Assistance 21st Edition - Jun 2001
Defense Institute of Security Assistance Management

The Cold War was about containment; the arms race was a way to bankrupt the Soviet Union, and it worked.

Mutual destruction is never the goal of any war...victory over the enemy is.

Beauseant!

[Stellar Dendrite]

"Some lowly staffer at GOP headquarters' is in charge of hitting the F10 button that produces a list of anti-Tancredo remarks to be used for the day."


LOL!!! Dane??

[Stellar Dendrite]

" Durbin? Is that you?"

LMFAO!

[Stellar Dendrite]

hellooooooooooo infidel!!

[rang1995]

sounds very SANE to me and is saying nothing that wasnt said during the "cold war"