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These Soldiers Say 'Over There' Is 'Bogus'
Seattle Post-Intelligencer ^ | July 26, 2005 | M.L. Lyke

Posted on 07/26/2005 7:55:18 AM PDT by Cecily

A truck tire hits a flagged wire, a roadside bomb explodes, a handsome private with shredded leg screams in agony. In the bloody chaos of the moment, his soldier buddies panic. One pukes.

Stop the cameras! Sir!

"People don't act like that when an i.e.d. (improvised explosive device) goes off. They make us look like idiots. We're not idiots!" said a first lieutenant previewing "Over There," the new TV series from Steven Bochco ("NYPD Blue," "Hill Street Blues") that debuts tomorrow night on FX cable network. It's set in Iraq, hyped as "true to life" by producers and hailed by critics as "unflinching" and "gut-wrenching."

"Bogus" was the preferred adjective among the eight soldiers -- most of them Iraq vets -- viewing the series pilot last week at Camp Murray, headquarters of the Washington State National Guard in Tacoma.

(Excerpt) Read more at seattlepi.nwsource.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bogus; bs; caca; commiehollywood; fellowtravellers; hollywacked; hollywierd; hollywoodleft; islamofascist; janefonda; moviereview; notfondakerry; overthere; pravda; saddamlovers; whollyweired
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Good old Hollyweird strikes again.
1 posted on 07/26/2005 7:55:18 AM PDT by Cecily
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To: Cecily

That's too bad--it looked like it might be worth watching.


2 posted on 07/26/2005 7:58:56 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Cecily

If Bochco is producing it, you know it's BOGUS! LMAO


3 posted on 07/26/2005 8:00:24 AM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Cecily

Sounds like some old WW II films.


4 posted on 07/26/2005 8:00:44 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Cecily

Tony Snow gave a brief review of the program this morning.

It should like a typical hollow-wood rendition.

FX is bad about pc-ing newy topics.


5 posted on 07/26/2005 8:01:10 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Cecily
I knew this show was going to be crap. It's trying to "Vietnamise" the Iraq war.

Also, let's face it, if it was true to life it would be about 18 hours a day of guys playing PS2 back at the base, and that's not good TV.
6 posted on 07/26/2005 8:01:37 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: Cecily
There's something very subtle here.

Note the headline "These Soldiers Say 'Over There' Is 'Bogus'". They emphasize that this story is an anecdote; that one particular collection of soldiers, having watched an episode, called it bogus. There's nothing wrong with that. That's fine, that's accurate, that's good journalism. Except for negative stories, the media always omits the qualifier. If the story is about a couple of returned soldiers who oppose the war, the headline is, "Iraq Veterans Oppose War." If the story is about a handful of Iraqis who are protesting the occupation, the headline is, "Iraqis Demand U.S. Withdrawal." They never, never use the headline to accurately portray anecdotal evidence when it paints the United States in a negative light.

7 posted on 07/26/2005 8:02:11 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: Cecily
What is interesting is that a Seattle newspaper reported this:

"Bogus" was the preferred adjective among the eight soldiers

8 posted on 07/26/2005 8:02:12 AM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: Cecily
The entire M*A*S*H* series was an Alan Alda podium for his own liberal anti-war, anti-military, anti-GOP and America-is-wrong-wrong-wrong-as-usual agenda.

This is more of the same Sleazywood crapola.
Sleazywood does this to make their own warped lives seem less warped. They desperately try to normalize their sick, out-of-the-mainstream life.
Doesn't seem to work....they are still FREAKS.

9 posted on 07/26/2005 8:02:39 AM PDT by starfish923
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To: Cecily

Hollywood inject trumped-up drama into real life? I'm shocked, shocked.....


10 posted on 07/26/2005 8:03:36 AM PDT by NRA1995 (West Virginia needs neurosurgeons like San Francisco needs gynecologists)
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To: randog

Was thinking the same thing....although I must say that I had my reservations that it would be spun as anti-war by highlighting the suffering and death of our troops. This confirms my thoughts.....it's a shame...they really could have done something positive for the war effort and over all morale with this too.


11 posted on 07/26/2005 8:03:49 AM PDT by mozrock (Is progressive American a euphemism for communist?)
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To: Cecily

How about this: Roadside bomb explodes. Humvee get hit. Wounded soldiers yells out. Buddies act like pros, one giving first aid and the others hunting down the cockroach who set off the bomb and capturing him.

I'd watch.


12 posted on 07/26/2005 8:03:50 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: starfish923

Yet M*A*S*H was awesome, nonetheless.


13 posted on 07/26/2005 8:05:33 AM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: bill1952
"Bogus" was the preferred adjective among the eight soldiers

The P-I may be taking a little journalistic liberty here. I suspect the actual preferred adjective might have been different, although it very well may have also begun with the letter B.

14 posted on 07/26/2005 8:06:27 AM PDT by Politicalities (http://www.politicalities.com)
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To: oldleft

Of course they're "Vietnamising" it. That's the only way to push their agenda and "prove" that it's a quagmire.


15 posted on 07/26/2005 8:06:29 AM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: Politicalities

Good observation. Very subtle yet very diceptive on the part of the MSM. Another attempt at immersing their bias (or lack of) when it is convenient to their cause er I mean their story!


16 posted on 07/26/2005 8:07:49 AM PDT by bubman
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To: Cecily

FX is blocked in our house except when they are showing NASCAR.


17 posted on 07/26/2005 8:08:03 AM PDT by Kokojmudd (Outsource Federal Judiciary and US Senate to India, NOW!)
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To: starfish923

Yup...my favorite M*A*S*H character was Frank Burns. He was a buffoon but the only conservative on the show...even though the writers made him a hypocritical two-timing moron.


18 posted on 07/26/2005 8:08:13 AM PDT by RockinRight (Democrats - Trying to make an a$$ out of America since 1933)
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To: Cecily

Sounds like one that I will love to miss.


19 posted on 07/26/2005 8:08:47 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: Cecily

I had a feeling this one would be clunker. (The name "Bochco" was a clue.) Not surprised at all. We've already decided not to watch.


20 posted on 07/26/2005 8:09:09 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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