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Back off Muslims, imam warns Ottawa
The Globe & Mail ^ | Monday, July 25, 2005 | COLIN FREEZE

Posted on 07/26/2005 6:02:50 AM PDT by yankeedame

Back off Muslims, imam warns Ottawa

By COLIN FREEZE


Monday, July 25, 2005 Updated at 5:15 AM EDT

From Monday's Globe and Mail

A controversial Toronto imam warned Public Safety Minister Anne McLellan at a closed-door meeting to stop "terrorizing" Canadian Muslims.

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control," Aly Hindy, the head of Scarborough's Salaheddin Islamic Centre, recalls telling the minister at the May meeting she held in Toronto with dozens of Muslim leaders.

The meeting was part of an effort by Ms. McLellan to reach out to Canadian Muslims amid complaints that the RCMP and Canadian Security Intelligence Service are engaging in racial profiling.

The minister and her officials have been meeting community leaders to explain they are not targeting Muslims generally, only individuals with possible terrorist links.

By many accounts, the meetings have been positive and are contributing to a thaw in relations between Muslims and security agents, even if the exchange in May was a little heated.

Mr. Hindy, who has long complained that CSIS is spying on him, his family and his mosque, told Ms. McLellan that a young Muslim woman complained to him she was roughed up by Canadian spies while her husband was away at prayers. This allegation could spur reprisals because "our women are the most valuable thing to us" and "for a Muslim, honour is more important than his life," Mr. Hindy said in a recent interview.

He made the point to the minister. Several people who attended shrugged off the imam's remarks, but some Muslims and government agents later approached Mr. Hindy asking him to explain himself.

"The police came to me and said, 'This is a kind of threat,' and I said yes," he said. "But it's for the good of this country.

"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

While government investigators probing the woman's complaint told Mr. Hindy they have not found evidence of wrongdoing, he isn't giving the spy service the benefit of the doubt.

"We believe CSIS should stop terrorizing us," he says in a flyer he is circulating to mosques. "CSIS is powerless. CSIS has no authority over you. If CSIS agents come to your door, do not open [it] for them."

Toronto's Coalition of Muslim Organizations arranged the meeting, and said about 100 Muslim leaders attended. While COMO president Adam Esse noted that, "some people, when they talk, they get a little heated," he said the ministerial visit was "a sign of respect" and was worthwhile overall. "If you talk, you remove a lot of misconceptions, a lot of misunderstandings."

A spokesman for Ms. McLellan agreed. "We feel it was constructive, positive," Alex Swann said.

Even Mr. Hindy said that despite his differences with security agencies "the Deputy Prime Minister, she was very understanding."

In the wake of the London bombings, Ms. McLellan has said that Canadians must become "psychologically prepared" for such an attack.

She has also suggested such strikes are not related to the U.S.-led war in Iraq, in which Britain is a strong partner. Mr. Hindy believes the war in Iraq has caused young Muslims to want to fight against the United States and Britain. "I always say the No. 1 recruiter of al-Qaeda is George W. Bush," he said.

The imam said six or seven young men have approached him to discuss "fighting overseas" in place such as Iraq and Afghanistan.

He said he told them "people fighting in Iraq, they don't need more people."

Instead, Canadian Muslims can wage non-violent jihads (holy struggles) at home. "You have a very good chance to serve Islam here," he said he told them.


TOPICS: Canada; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: blackmail; islam; jihad; koran; muslim; muslime; religionofpeace; trop
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1 posted on 07/26/2005 6:02:50 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame
Our young people, we can't control

You said it, you dirty scumbag. I didn't.

If Muslim youth are truly an uncontrollable threat, they should be either liquidated or deported.

2 posted on 07/26/2005 6:04:38 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: yankeedame

Sounds vaguely like a threat................


3 posted on 07/26/2005 6:05:03 AM PDT by Red Badger (HURRICANES: God's way of telling you it's time to clean out the freezer...............)
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To: yankeedame
"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

I would take this as a recommendation by the Imam.

4 posted on 07/26/2005 6:07:50 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: yankeedame
"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control," Aly Hindy, the head of Scarborough's Salaheddin Islamic Centre, recalls telling the minister at the May meeting she held in Toronto with dozens of Muslim leaders.

You may not be able to control them but there are those that can and will if necessary.
5 posted on 07/26/2005 6:08:15 AM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: yankeedame

Get a rope.


6 posted on 07/26/2005 6:09:08 AM PDT by schaketo (Not all who wander are lost)
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To: yankeedame
Our young people, we can't control

But you sure can control what you're teaching them.

7 posted on 07/26/2005 6:09:23 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn (Legality does not dictate morality... Lavin)
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To: yankeedame
"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"

Oh baloney. When they blow something up, they are doing just what you want them to do.

Apparently, this 'imam' thinks it is okay for a Muslim to lie.

8 posted on 07/26/2005 6:09:38 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: yankeedame

Obviously, they *can't* and don't *want* to control themselves, thus they are merely dangerous animals and should be destroyed.


9 posted on 07/26/2005 6:10:01 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: yankeedame
Back off Muslims...

Sorry, too late for that.

10 posted on 07/26/2005 6:10:22 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: yankeedame

***... Our young people, we can't control...***

Make no mistake, this is a threat we will be hearing more and more.

Seems we are entering a new phase with this war.


11 posted on 07/26/2005 6:10:46 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: fanfan; GMMAC

Wow.

Lord help us if the Muslims gain control of Parliament.


12 posted on 07/26/2005 6:11:36 AM PDT by proud American in Canada
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To: yankeedame

Can there be any doubt of the need for strict border control both north and south?


13 posted on 07/26/2005 6:11:58 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If you must obey your party, may your chains rest lightly upon your shoulders.)
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To: yankeedame
"And they said, 'Do you know some of the names of those people you expect to cause some problems?' And I said, 'You just open the telephone directory.' "

Thanks for the tip, diaper-top. We'll get right on it.

14 posted on 07/26/2005 6:12:20 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: yankeedame

"If you try to cross the line I can't guarantee what is going to happen. Our young people, we can't control,"
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Here we go boys and girls. Take done the muskets and clean them up. Oil them and be ready. The islamofacists will strike here very soon. But ammo!


15 posted on 07/26/2005 6:12:42 AM PDT by 26lemoncharlie ('Cuntas haereses tu sola interemisti in universo mundo!')
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To: MEGoody
Apparently, this 'imam' thinks it is okay for a Muslim to lie.

Qur’an 9:3 -- “Allah is not bound by any contract or treaty with non-Muslims, nor is His Apostle.”

16 posted on 07/26/2005 6:12:56 AM PDT by TBarnett34 (What part of "up or down" do you RINOs not understand?)
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To: Red Badger

Pretty much the standard tactic of the so-called "moderate mooslims": claim that they can't control the violence while they cry "peace, peace" to the rest of the world. It's like some mob boss claiming that the hit men don't work for him and he's just an honest businessman.


17 posted on 07/26/2005 6:13:02 AM PDT by Emmett McCarthy
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To: yankeedame
Our young people, we can't control,"

There's a couple of HEROIC London Cops that can demonstrate how to control them!

18 posted on 07/26/2005 6:13:13 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Thank GOD There's a Cowboy in the White House!)
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To: Red Badger
Well, he clarifies himself, and says it's a threat.

"The police came to me and said, 'This is a kind of threat,' and I said yes," he said. "But it's for the good of this country.

19 posted on 07/26/2005 6:13:23 AM PDT by Dolphan (It's the 99% of Mohammedans that make the other 1% look bad.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

Exactly. And just what were they taught to be like this?

Islam needs to be outlawed. I believe that day is a few more serious bombings away.


20 posted on 07/26/2005 6:14:14 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton, Jr.)
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