Posted on 07/25/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by Sam Hill
Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence
Monday, March 17, 2003
WASHINGTON Invoking
the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.
The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.
VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.
"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."
But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.
"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."
VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.
Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Here's one I hadn't seen:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445570/posts
Hypocrisy leaks from Plame case [Mulshine w/ comments from Larry Johnson of CIA]
**And I found a couple more that didn't have the CIALEAK keyword, so I've just added them to the CIALINK on the latest post page. Check them out.
"Former CIA agent Larry Johnson also questioned Goss's qualifications."
So these VIPS guys are the professional testifiers the Democrats drag out whenever they want to trash the Administration? The article neglects to mention that Johnson had a four year stint in the CIA, and had been out of the Agency for about 15 years at the time he testified.
He might have done oral briefings. They are about ten minutes--tops. They usually pick a young person, often a girl, just to make it less onerous. They don't pick serious people.
By the way, McGovern is probably lying about that, since elsewhere it is said:
"McGovern served as a CIA analyst for almost 30 years. From 1981 to 1985 he conducted daily briefings for Ronald Reagan's vice president, George Bush, the father of the incumbent president."
June 23, 2003
Washington Lied
An Interview with Ray McGovern
Mark Pritzke: Washington Lied, an Interview with Ray McGovern
http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern06232003.html
These people lie their heads off to try to boost their credibility. I'm still convinced that's how Wilson came to out his wife.
Thanks for linking that thread, which deserves a lot more discussion and research. I stand by my own comment on it:
I will never forget who Larry Johnson is because he is another version of Joe Wilson - a pompous, strutting, vapid careerist who asserts more than he can know about what he does not begin to understand. He wrote what should be one of the most notorious Op-Ed columns in history, appearing in the NY Times July 10, 2001, claiming that terrorism was a sharply declining phenomenon which should be far down the list of priorities for US policy makers. I recall reading this column that very morning and thinking "this guy is an utter fool and he is supposed to be one of the key US counter-terrorism experts!" It was a time of increasing alerts and terror threats before 9/11, though the focus of attention was mainly overseas, yet Larry Johnson's mission was to pooh-pooh any attempts to ratchet up our concerns. He was one of the clowns who helped the country to sleep before 9/11, and he was supposed to be the great expert on terrorism.
"Who is Larry Johnson? He's the author of one of the more poorly timed op-eds in history. On July 10, 2001, he wrote in the New York Times under the headline "The Declining Terrorist Threat" that "Americans have little to fear" from terrorism unless they travel or work in a few of the world's hotspots."
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/994402/posts
http://www.berg-associates.com/newpage11.htm
Wilson Didn't Complain About "The 16 Words" Until He Was Working On Kerry Campaign
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1445574/posts?page=82#81
I suspect that Americas current liberal anti-American pacifists will in the long run also cause many innocent deaths if not put into their places.
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And to think that Anti American pacifis Jane (not) Fonda is going to do a book tour and Anti War campaign here shortly. Ba humbug. What scum.
Bump
These guys are certainly going to extreme lengths to trash the Administration. Did anyone think to ask Cannistraro what his evidence was for this accusation?
I believe the NYT along with the anti-Bush people in the CIA have opened a can of worms that now, they wish they never had.
I've been saying for the longest that the NYT needs to be investigated. Everything comes back to Judith Miller...and she comes back to the NYT. Something is definitely afoot.
"It boggles the mind that such evil people are in, or were in, such high placed branches in this country."
Disgruntled bureaucrats in Washington should be no surprise. The place is full of them. What is surprising is that these dubious intelligence officers are getting so much traction - or maybe that shouldn't be surprising, given media bias.
Mr. Ray McGovern, former senior Analyst and PDB Briefer, CIA <-----VIPS
A PDB is "President's Daily Briefer." But here, presumably from his own mouth (as he was being interviewed) it's said:
"McGovern served as a CIA analyst for almost 30 years. From 1981 to 1985 he conducted daily briefings for Ronald Reagan's vice president, George Bush, the father of the incumbent president."
June 23, 2003
Washington Lied
An Interview with Ray McGovern
Mark Pritzke: Washington Lied, an Interview with Ray McGovern
http://www.counterpunch.org/mcgovern06232003.html
Which is it, Ray?
Again, from the anti-Semitic, anti-American hellhole known as AntiWar.com:
March 5, 2005
Who Now Will Read to the President in the Morning?
by Ray McGovern
...I did such morning briefings for the Vice President, the Secretaries of State and Defense, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and the National Security Assistant from 1981 to 1985, each of them one-on-one a procedure begun under President Ronald Reagan at the suggestion of then-Vice President (and earlier CIA director) George H. W. Bush. Our small team of briefers was comprised of senior analysts who had been around long enough to earn respect and trust. We had the full confidence of the CIA director, who, though himself very opinionated, rarely inserted himself into the PDB process.
Who Now Will Read to the President in the Morning? - by Ray McGovern
http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=5078
So when McGovern claims to have briefed Reagan, he is lying.
He seems to do a lot of that.
Oh, that I were a billionaire. I would buy a media organization and have conservative view points. I would give the leftist liberals a run for their money. We already know the majority of Americans want to hear conservative views on the news. We are sick and tired of the liberal cr@p that we are force fed from the MSM.
Exactly. He had already gone on a trip to Africa in 1999.
Why didn't he pipe up then? The Iraq Liberation Act had already been passed citing Hussein's intent on obtaining WMD by then.
Something smells fishy.
"I watched it..he was visibly uncomfortable. Even stuttered, slight visible sweating.."
Evidence of guilty knowledge on Tim Russert's part?
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