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Larry Johnson's Group (VIPS) Called On CIA Employees To Leak Secrets To Hurt Bush
Associated Press ^ | March 17, 2003 | Unknown

Posted on 07/25/2005 10:03:04 PM PDT by Sam Hill

Ex-CIA Accuse Bush of Manipulating Iraq Evidence

Monday, March 17, 2003

WASHINGTON — Invoking

the name of a Pentagon whistle-blower, a small group of retired, anti-war CIA officers are accusing the Bush administration of manipulating evidence against Iraq in order to push war while burying evidence that could show Iraq's compliance with U.N demands for disarmament.

The 25-member group, Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity, composed mostly of former CIA analysts along with a few operational agents, is urging employees inside the intelligence agency to break the law and leak any information they have that could show the Bush administration is engineering the release of evidence to match its penchant for war.

VIPS member Ray McGovern, a 27-year CIA veteran who gave intelligence briefings to top Reagan officials before retiring in 1990, said the administration has not made the case that Iraq has ties to Al Qaeda and is providing information that does not meet an intelligence professional's standard of proof.

"It's been cooked to a recipe, and the recipe is high policy," McGovern said. "That's why a lot of my former colleagues are holding their noses these days."

But the CIA said McGovern doesn't have any authority to speak of the quality of intelligence policy-makers are reviewing.

"He left the agency over a decade ago," spokesman Mark Mansfield said. "He's hardly in a position to comment knowledgeably on that subject."

VIPS say their appeals to CIA staff are an attempt to evoke another Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Pentagon Papers, a top-secret study on U.S. involvement in Vietnam.

Leaking classified national defense information is illegal, and CIA officers, who take a secrecy oath when they join could lose their security clearances or jobs, and may even face prosecution...

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


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To: Howlin
"The first public mention of Wilson's mission to Niger, albeit without identifying him by name, was in the New York Times on May 6, in a column by Nicholas D. Kristof. Kristof had been on a panel with Wilson four days earlier, when the former ambassador said State Department officials should know better than to say the United States had been duped by forged documents that allegedly had proved a deal for the uranium had been in the works between Iraq and Niger.

Wilson said he told Kristof about his trip to Niger on the condition that Kristof must keep his name out of the column. When the column appeared, it created little public stir, though it set a number of reporters on the trail of the anonymous former ambassador. Kristof confirmed that account."
321 posted on 07/26/2005 10:28:36 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: samadams2000

True dat.


322 posted on 07/26/2005 10:29:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Mo1
Senate Democratic Policy Committee Hearing
October 24, 2003

323 posted on 07/26/2005 10:29:22 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: samadams2000
once the freepers get your scent its all over

I haven't had this much fun since Rathergate.

This could be the start of something big.

The very fact that Larry the Loser got spooked enough to threaten MM is significant.

He strikes me as the type of person who googles himself often.

324 posted on 07/26/2005 10:30:23 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: pbrown
That's what sent me down the road to wearing a tin-foil hat.

When I read that post of ravingnutter's the other night, I literally could not get to sleep.

I can't decide whether I'm having trouble believing it, or I'm having trouble believing I believe it. :-)

325 posted on 07/26/2005 10:31:09 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
 
 
 

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 Representative John Conyers, D-Mich., swears-in, left to right, former Ambassador Joseph Wilson, Cindy Sheehan, whose son was killed in Iraq, and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern on Capitol Hill Thursday, June 16, 2005, during a hearing by Democrats on the so-called 'Downing Street Memo.' (AP Photo/Dennis Cook)
 

Cindy Sheehan, Gold Star Families for Peace
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at Conyer's Hearing on Downing Street Minutes

 Ray McGovern, a former CIA agent (R), places a photo of the son of Cindy Sheehan, founder of Gold Star Families for American Peace(C) on the table as Ambassador Joseph Wilson looks on during an unofficial forum on the Downing Street Minutes on Capitol Hill in Washington, DC June 16, 2005. The document, created in 2002 for British Prime Minister Tony Blair said that United States President George W. Bush was intent on invading Iraq and that intelligence was being manipulated to support Bushs interests. Sheehan's son, Army Specialist Casey Sheehan was killed in Iraq. REUTERS/Chris Kleponis


326 posted on 07/26/2005 10:31:39 AM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Howlin

Fair enough, I was just concerned because of the MD story.


327 posted on 07/26/2005 10:31:40 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: ScreamingFist

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328 posted on 07/26/2005 10:31:41 AM PDT by ScreamingFist (Peace through Stupidity)
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To: dinasour
He strikes me as the type of person who googles himself often.

Is that what they're calling it these days?

329 posted on 07/26/2005 10:31:58 AM PDT by nuffsenuff
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To: Mo1; Sam Hill; kcvl; pbrown

Well, well, the gangs all there!


330 posted on 07/26/2005 10:32:46 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin; MJY1288; Sam Hill; Mad Mammoth; kcvl; mystery-ak; All
We need to start monitoring AND MAKING NOTE of the "guest" panelists on:

*CNN
*MSNBC
*Katey Para-couric
*Tim Russty
*Charlie Rose
*PBS News Shows
*SeeBS, etc. .. ALL OF THEM

331 posted on 07/26/2005 10:34:01 AM PDT by STARWISE (You get the gov't you deserve. Call your Congress Critters OFTEN - 877-762-8762)
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To: Howlin
Once again "suggested" by his wife, "Jane Bond," as he refers to her

I'll bet Ms. Plame's pet name for him is "Mini Me"

332 posted on 07/26/2005 10:34:05 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: Sam Hill

Bump for a later read.


333 posted on 07/26/2005 10:35:38 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: nuffsenuff
Is that what they're calling it these days

Well it does have a better ring than "yahooing yourself"

334 posted on 07/26/2005 10:36:49 AM PDT by dinasour (Pajamahadeen)
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To: STARWISE

You see Rusert this weekend? He looked and sounded very scared.


335 posted on 07/26/2005 10:37:02 AM PDT by samadams2000 (Pitchforks and Lanters..with a smiley face!)
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To: Sam Hill

Swears them in for WHAT?????

It wasn't a REAL committe; they met in a hall, FGS.


336 posted on 07/26/2005 10:37:35 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
VIPS sent this memo on May 1, 2003 and Wilson not to be outdone by a more critical stance goes and runs the muck to Kristof and to confirm he, Wilson, is the most critical tells Kristof that all his "finding" could be verified through a "CIA analyst", Valarie Plame soon to be learned, if not already, his wife.
337 posted on 07/26/2005 10:37:46 AM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: samadams2000

Oh, tell me about Russert, please!


338 posted on 07/26/2005 10:38:16 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: MEGoody

To me, it is offensive and disgusting - not to mention illegal - for these guys to be wasting our time and the CIA's time trying to bring down an Administration in the midst of a very real fight with terrorists. You remember the terrorists, the ones Larry Johnson said weren't a threat?


339 posted on 07/26/2005 10:41:12 AM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: Howlin
I'm having trouble believing I believe it. :-)

That's me in a nutshell(no pun intended). It's hard to get ones mind around what the implications of all this could lead too. It boggles the mind that such evil people are in, or were in, such high placed branches in this country. Absolutely amazing.

340 posted on 07/26/2005 10:41:39 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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