Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9

Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

[TexKat]

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05

[countryconservative]

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y84/patchworkpiecer/deepak_satish.jpg

Deepak is in the light blue shirt.
Satish is in the yellow shirt.

You can see Deepak is shorter and actually appears to look younger than Satish.

Deepak is 21 years old
Satish is 18 and possibly 19 years old now.

Here is Deepak's Tickle Site which he is still visiting
http://profile.tickle.com/Et8l6soPy5PjzkqR

Satish's Tickle Website
http://profile.tickle.com/rTzZMyls5N9p1xiL

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Oh... too who ever asked they are Hindu - see their profiles.

[TAquinas]

I think the kidnapping charhe is a specious one even if Joran and Natalee showed up at C&C together. There got to be more to this law than merely showing up together and not leaving together.

[countryconservative]

exactly...

[texasbluebell]

No, it's not about people _not_ leaving together.

It's if 2 people leave together, and one of them then disappears!

That's the aruban law.

J and N left together.

N disappeared.

J is responsible, according to their law.

[texasbluebell]

Right...no body, no crime.

Papa wouldn't have made a very good judge, I think.

[HoHoeHeaux]

Disagree that the shoe isn't important. If Joran was looking to match one, it could be very important, but not sure the Arubans will see the importance of it, if indeed they do find it.I don't have much confidence in their system to say the least, although I have tried very hard to not judge them.

IMO, Aruba is under intense pressure and scrutiny now. A crime they thought could be swept under a rug has become an international event that won't go away. I think Joran will crack, if he hasn't already and we just don't know about it. It will be in Aruba's...and Holland's, best interest to get a confession now. I don't care how connected the dad is. Maybe the 'new' people coming from Holland to drill him will report a confession. God I hope so.

[TAquinas]

Thanks for explaining this too. I'm not very bright when it comes to these kinds of things, and a lot of other things, you know. In addition, I'm not a lawyer.

[rolling_stone]

One of my favorite fictional detectives says, "The murderer always brings something of himself to the crime scene, and always leaves something of himself behind."

Another famous saying is that the criminal always returns to the scene of the crime..it appears that was done here and to their detriment..

Someone posted why did they(ALE) let the Kalpoes go, I can't find the post, but my thoughts were that PVDS wanted them to run..remember their mom said they had tickets and were going to Surinam..I wonder who paid for the tickets..then Beth's speech probably stopped them from going..if they had split there would be two less witnesses against Joran and the bros would have looked guilty...could that have been the plan by PVDS and the Police Chief?... JMO..

[Sunshine55]

Get a load of this:

http://arubansecrets.blogspot.com/2005/07/lorenzo-van-rijn.html

[texasbluebell]

Well, I'm not exactly an expert on aruban law, you know!

Everything I know I learned on tv.

[presently no screen name]

I didn't make the law. The PI said tonight that Joran can be charged with kidnapping.

You have it backwards - they didn't arrive together and leave separately.

They arrived separately and left together.

[countryconservative]

The tickets the brothers had we bought in advance. They had a planned vacation set-up before Natalee came up missing (the Kalpoe Brothers). - that vacation was canceled by them but they did get out of jail in time to catch the plane if they wanted to and they could have left to Surinam legally since it is still part of the colony.

[countryconservative]

we = were

[TAquinas]

Don't underestimate the Internet. It has a lot of possibilities to learning. In fact, the more I'm connected to the Net, the more I learn how much I didn't know. It's like eating peanuts - the more I eat, the more I like them. Well, not a good analogy, but you get my draft.

[TAquinas]

I think I meant DRIFT, not DRAFT. They both sound the same and I often use similar sounding names interchangibly for poetic effect.

[gubamyster]

They might have been smooth as silk in forcing themselves on young girls,,,but murdere? Nobody is smooth about murder unless he works for murder for hire. Especially a first time killer of teen age.

My thoughts exactly. I think they were playing what they thought was a game or contest - see how many girls you can score with, but not premiditated murder.

Something went wrong & they probably first disposed of the body somewhere that would be relatively easy & convenient. Then PVDS, who had more time to come up with a better plan, helped them transfer the body to a place that would be more difficult, if not impossible, to find.

[Palladin]

Would you please expand upon your assertion that the shoe is important. I am trying to understand its full significance.

[countryconservative]

My opinion is they are not the same person... why because the picture of Jamie on the right (red shirt) was taken early this year at birthday party for some little rich blond girl. This was in March or April of 2005.

Now the dude on the left looks to be older (his face looks aged) and I have no idea when that picture was taken of him, but if was taken after March or April 2005 then Jamie sure has aged quite a bit in a short amount of time. What could do that... well heavy drug abuse might do it that fast, but I doubt it. Now if the picture on the left is Jamie and if the picture is older than March or April of 2005, then Jamie has regained his youth and young facial features.

http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/2213/1338/1600/comp1.jpg

[presently no screen name]

Thanks for the post.


Somewhat ironic Satish's favorite movies are -

Favorite Movies: american pie 1&2, scary movie 1&2, dumb & dumber, the mask, meet the parents.

[sissyjane]

I know you didn't post to me, but I'll tell you what Josey Mansour said on Greta tonight...He said that the pond they are now draining was very muddy on the evening that Natalie disappeared. He said that if someone(Joran) walked into the mud, they would have lost their shoe.