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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9
Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

Posted on 07/25/2005 7:17:04 AM PDT by TexKat

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05


TOPICS: US: Alabama; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: aruba; beth; carloscharlies; deepak; disappear; joran; kalpoes; kidnapped; mansur; natalee; nataleeholloway; satish; twitty
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To: Malichi

Male DNA does not necessariy mean semen. It can be one cell, from sharing a tooth brush for example.


1,501 posted on 07/27/2005 1:06:01 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: truthluva

I wonder how long Natalee's belongings were in the hands of ALE?


1,502 posted on 07/27/2005 1:06:14 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: penowa

From the article:

It is quite possible that, behind the scenes, Paulus Van Der Sloot is attempting to file an appeal against the writ of summons.

As long as the case has not gone to trial, he can ask that another court declare the case closed.

If the lawyers for Joren and the Kalpoe brothers can negotiate a “transaction” with the prosecutor (see above), it is possible that the boys can never be prosecuted for murder if Natalee’s body is discovered in the future. Astonishing, no?

In the event that the case goes to trial, assuming the prosecutors collect enough evidence, the boys will be tried by one to three judges.

There is no jury, and the judges ask all the questions. In Aruba, a defense attorney can cross-examine witnesses, unlike in the Netherlands. (We should send Mark Geragos to Amsterdam.)

Victims or the families of victims have few rights in the Aruban justice system.

Their role is limited to witness or informer during the investigation and pretrial stage.

When the victim is not a citizen, she essentially has no rights at all.

http://www.misfitting.com/archives/cat_natalee_holloway.html


1,503 posted on 07/27/2005 1:08:32 PM PDT by Lucy Lake
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To: TexKat
ALE would not have tampered w/ any of her things. please. If she KISSED a guy, then before going to bed, say the night before, male DNA from his saliva, would be on her tootbrush. Makes perfect sense.
1,504 posted on 07/27/2005 1:08:58 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: All

Just heard on tv that the family has been warned to not watch as they drain the pond... sounds like they have some pretty convincing evidence of something.


1,505 posted on 07/27/2005 1:08:59 PM PDT by djf (Government wants the same things I do - MY guns, MY property, MY freedoms!)
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To: TexKat
"I wonder how long Natalee's belongings were in the hands of ALE?"

Come on, it's easier to bash and speculate about Natalee. I think paulus has put alot of money out there to protect sonny boy. Internet smearing, lies, smoke screens. I'd be checking the dna of the ale property room man. If ale would attempt to smear Beth by implying she planted the hair evidence to keep case front and center, well tampering with a toothbrush is no big deal.

1,507 posted on 07/27/2005 1:19:05 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: spectre
btw.............. I saved that info (The Huanglian Anticancer Option (SK 1046) The Huanglian Anticancer Option (SK 1046) Summary of Invention) you posted for future reference.....and honestly....... I thank you again.

Here's hoping none of us will need it.

1,508 posted on 07/27/2005 1:28:16 PM PDT by beyond the sea ("If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball." - Jack Lemmon)
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To: cajungirl
Ok, granted that male DNA will show up in any male cell why were they checking for male DNA. Any male contaminant DNA from her brother would have degraded to the point that PCR analysis would not have been able to detect it. Furthermore, DNA degrades very rapidly in a hot, moist environment ie. a toothbrush being run under hot water. This degradation is why it's crucial to get swabs for a post rape kit in the first 24 hours or so. If it wasn't semen, then whomever used Natalee's toothbrush that was male had to have access to her personal toiletries(my wife won't even let me look through her purse) in the last few hours that she was in the room. Of course maybe her roommate had a stay over friend that last night and could be why she's not saying much.

I think that the whole thing about male DNA is a ruse or falsehood to simply make Natalee look bad as I said in the last sentence of my previous post.

TAW

1,509 posted on 07/27/2005 1:29:56 PM PDT by Malichi (!)
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To: beyond the sea
I hope ADMIN removed my post, as I have just requested.

I AM relieved you don't have IT!

SW

1,510 posted on 07/27/2005 1:31:37 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Admin Moderator
Thank you very much :)

sw

1,511 posted on 07/27/2005 1:33:45 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Malichi

Good post, but you're assuming they tested the toothbrush right away. I think it's been sitting around.


1,512 posted on 07/27/2005 1:37:43 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

Natalee got back to the room after the boys dropped her off, and she startled the local tooth brush fetishist who was in her room, so he had to kill her.


1,513 posted on 07/27/2005 1:39:20 PM PDT by rocklobster11
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To: GarySpFc

Hi Gary!! That's really sad. I can't get the photo to come up on my computer. In any event, I'll pray for Alexi and a successful outcome. CO


1,514 posted on 07/27/2005 1:44:00 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: TexKat

1,515 posted on 07/27/2005 1:49:09 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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To: Dolphy

Holy moly Dolphy!! I didn't know that information before. That is wonderful news if it is connected to this crime. Of course Beth would likely know if Natalee had a pair of polka dot undies.


1,516 posted on 07/27/2005 1:52:35 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: spectre

I just heard on the tube that they are draining the pond at night...so that the defense team can't see or find out what evidence they uncover..can you believe that?...I mean..it's what, 100x HARDER to find any evidence at night..


1,517 posted on 07/27/2005 1:53:59 PM PDT by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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1,518 posted on 07/27/2005 1:56:08 PM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: ken5050

Bwahahaha!!!

So, how long will they keep any evidence
hidden from the defense?? Too funny.


1,519 posted on 07/27/2005 1:56:28 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: countryconservative

Ha!


1,520 posted on 07/27/2005 1:58:14 PM PDT by maggief (No 'luffs')
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