Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 9

Various News Outlets | 7/25/05

[TexKat]

Natalee Holloway and friends in Aruba 5/30/05

[sarasota]

Good one!

[Froufrou]

So, that could be the only retribution of sorts in this whole mess? That his appointment concidentally ends? If he was in training, I wonder why the appointment is up 1-1-06?

I swear, I just want to see BH get her baby girl back. Now, already. I hope these three witnesses pull some eight. A female said she saw three trips to the raquet club that night after 2:00?

[Jrabbit]

Oh, ok, I understand now! The one that looks like the VDS home doesn't mention an apartment or whatever it's called that Joran stays in, though. If PVDS owns these and the one by the Marriott was empty....surely it was searched, right? Never mind.....it's Aruba. Silly me.

[countryconservative]

at the bottom of each listing you will see...

See owner's other properties when you click on it it takes you here...
http://www.greatrentals.com/adminpublic/exb/multiple_prop_list.cfm?CST_ID=3083&SIT_ID=4979

The owners ID number is CUST_ID=3083 - they own about 13 rental properties.

The rental management company is www.greatrentals.com and they manage rentals for property owners - they manage rentals for up to 90 rental properties. - Who ever owns the home the VDS live in also own 12 or 13 more homes.

If the VDS home is not owned by them and if it is a rental - then I would assume that the search team could ask the property owner if they can search the grounds (the vacated well/cistern that is on the property)

[justche]

He's pulling a lot of the strings. His family controls the island, don't they? They want to get back to business.

I think a lot of eyes are closed to 'normal' activities. But this went beyond what was acceptable. If he's really a mobster, I don't know why he didn't just make some kind of example to Joran's family. I really wonder what's going on in the background. Also, do the families talk to Jossy, or are they keeping their distance?

[TexKat]

[justche]

What if---Joran is in jail to protect him from Jossy and his minions? They crossed the line, and there's punishment to be had, but if he's in jail and the whole world knows there can't be an accident in jail?

*Putting the tinfoil away just a little sheepishly*

[TexKat]

Nancy Grace reported last night that Joran has 22 versions of what happened.

Nancy Grace also exaggerates.

[TexKat]

I do not believe that that is the VD's home. That area is where they are draining the pond as we type.

It was reported on various news outlets last night that the 3 suspects would have had to rush to get back to their part of town in the 30 minute time line.

[the Deejay]

Jossy told Nancy Grace joran's told 22 versions.

Nancy didn't make that up. Just repeated what Jossy said.

[countryconservative]

Here is the graphic from...Here

(I uploaded it to my photobucket account so we don't suck up the bloggers bandwidth with it being posted here if I were to link directly to it)

[Jrabbit]

When I posted the link, I did so for the map. I hadn't read the commentary about the rental properties. There is a home listed in Noor that looks like the VDS home.

[TexKat]

I think the map is interesting, but the rental property stuff has me confused....

The pond in the above pix is probably the pond that is being drained.

Jug and others stated that it was across aways from the Marriott and near the racquet club.

This is probably also the new area where the female witness lives that has reported that she saw Deepaks car.

Plus I have also read that the pond was also a drainage area for the contruction of the new area.

I believe the VDSs lives somewhere else, perhaps in the Dutch area. I thought the VDSs area started with the letter M.

[countryconservative]

The VDS home is listed now as a rental - the person who owns the VDS home also owns a home right next to the Racquet Club plus 11 or 12 other homes.

The question is does PVDS own the home he was living in and if so then he may own the home next to the Racquet club also. Did Joran has access to it? or to a tool shed on that is on that property near the Racquet Club?

If PVDS does not own the home they were living in - then someone else owns it and the Texas search team may not know that PVDS does not own the home and they need to locate the true owner of the home to see if they can search the well/cistern on the property in Noord.

They only show the backside and inside of the VDS home... but it sure looks like the home we saw on Greta...
http://www.greatrentals.com/aruba/4979.html

after you go to the link above - scroll down and click on "See owner's other properties", then you will see they also own the home next to the Racquet Club. (Large Villa at Walk to Beach, 6 BR + Pool (#4675) - Location: Bakval,just across Marriott, Aruba)

[spectre]

Awhh..the Great Man of Bronze..Doc Savage FINALLY weighs in! Good to see you!

Spot on with your analysis. Sort of like The Fantastic Island and all the elements of mystery, corruption and evil..huh?

My point was, that if they never find her body, then the perp would have to confess and THAT, dear Doc isn't likely.

Stay tuned :)

sw

[Fritzy]

Carel Janssen.. connected with the case???

[countryconservative]

PVDS and family live in Montana Plaza which is part of Noord.

Noord - Aruba
3BR 2BA Sleeps 6 - Montaña Plaza, Brand New Super Modern 3 Bedroom Home with Private Pool (#4979)
http://www.greatrentals.com/aruba/4979.html

[TexKat]

Aruban policemen provide security to the pond across from the Marriot Hotel while it's being drained in Oranjestad, Aruba, Wednesday, July 27, 2005. Investigators trying to determine what happened to Natalee Holloway focused Wednesday on the pond near where the U.S. teen was last seen nearly two months ago while awaiting the results of DNA analysis from labs in the Netherlands and the United States. (AP Photo/Pedro Famous Diaz)