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Lt. gov. crashed Marine's funeral, kin say
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | July 23,2005 | Tom Barnes

Posted on 07/23/2005 6:51:27 AM PDT by learner

Saturday, July 23, 2005 By Tom Barnes, Post-Gazette Harrisburg Bureau

The family of a Marine who was killed in Iraq is furious with Lt. Gov. Catherine Baker Knoll for showing up uninvited at his funeral this week, handing out her business card and then saying "our government" is against the war.

(Excerpt) Read more at post-gazette.com ...


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To: learner

Typical leftist - it's all about advancing their agenda. They don't care one whit about other people.


341 posted on 07/25/2005 9:25:21 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Thanks for the e-mail site.

My message...

"Ignorance can be cured through education and knowledge but stupidity is terminal".

That no class Lt. Gov has got to go!!!
342 posted on 07/25/2005 11:24:52 AM PDT by jackv
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To: learner

Muir has a good cartoon about this:

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/
(dated 25 July)


343 posted on 07/25/2005 11:27:53 AM PDT by brewer1516
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To: Rhonda-in-indiana-pa

My condolences to your family and my gratitude to your brave brother. I faxed a copy of the article to John Perzel and a few local reps in my area.


344 posted on 07/25/2005 12:02:44 PM PDT by hipaatwo (When you're in trouble you want all your friends around you...preferably armed!)
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To: merry10

Pennsylvania ping. hmph.


345 posted on 07/25/2005 12:06:16 PM PDT by Mrs.Liberty (All your TH are belong to us.)
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To: Rhonda-in-indiana-pa

First, our condolences to the family.

We're going to keep bumping this thread. Our public officials should not be allowed to have a free pass for this kind of classless behavior.

Keep the pressure on, FR.


346 posted on 07/25/2005 12:13:28 PM PDT by GiveEmDubya
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To: jackv
Ignorance can be cured through education and knowledge but stupidity is terminal".

Hopefully there will be enough decent voters to turn out Rendell & Knoll in 2006.

To the family of SSgt. Joe Goodrich our prayers are with you.

Semper Fi

347 posted on 07/25/2005 1:17:03 PM PDT by TYVets (God so loved the world he didn't send a committee)
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I think this entire situation is being poorly characterized.

Has anyone ever been 'invited' to a funeral? Are invitations sent out, or is the information published for the world to see in the newspaper? Did Lynn Profeta have an invitation? (A quoted source from a newspaper who said she was there with her son.)

My Dad had a little kid place a rosary in his coffin. No one knew who the kid was, or why he did it. The kid was 'uninvited.' Eyebrows were raised, but no one went off the deep end.

When the Honor Guard presented my Mother with the folded Flag of our Nation what I remember hearing was, "On behalf of a grateful Nation ..." after that the guy could have said the pledge of allegiance in broken Arabic. Emotions are deep and clarity of mind are not the first order of business. Lt. Gov. Knoll is supposed to have said something to the Aunt wich was either overheard by the sister in-law, or later retold to the sister in-law. I caution that clarity of comprehension might be at issue at such a emotionally challenging time.

Knoll has been to several of these 'functions' yep a lousy choice of words, but at an emotional time any word said - with any gesture - tone of voice - can send the listener down an unintended path.

Since Knoll has attended funerals in the past can anyone (reporter) findout what has happened before? Did other famillies get upset about the Lt. Gov. appearance? Did the other families take up her offer and used the cards to find out Penn law inre: to state death taxes? Has anything similar happened?

Or, was Knoll just offering 'constintuent services.'

As for saying 'campaign' it is a characterization by one person. And, if the media followed the Lt. Gov. then there must be video or sound of the conversation.

The blogosphere is having a field day with this. I say, let's not have a knee jerk response to this, and simply ask some relevant questions. No Offense. No Defense. Just intellectually honest questions and answers.


348 posted on 07/25/2005 2:59:26 PM PDT by zyzzyg
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To: zyzzyg
Another link:

PA Lt. Gov's Apology For Crashing Marine's Funeral Virtually Blames Grieving Family

349 posted on 07/25/2005 3:23:49 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: Born Conservative
Thanks for the non school ping! Here's my favorite part:

She(The Lt. Gov)sat down next to a Goodrich family member and, during the distribution of communion, said, "Who are you?" Then she handed the family member one of her business cards, which Goodrich said she still has.

Wow. Truly amazing. Not only intruding on the family's grief, but interrupting holy communion to pass out her business cards. What a piece of work this woman is.

350 posted on 07/25/2005 4:43:19 PM PDT by MaggieCarta (What this country needs is more unemployed politicians--Edward Langley)
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To: zyzzyg

Are you really that naive? I take the word of a grieving family member over that of the Lt. Gov. any day of the week, especially after reading Knoll's non-apology, and the Governor's lame lack of responsibility for the actions of HIS Lt. Gov.
The liberal Left is not known for their sensitivity or charm. Example proven by Knoll.
I would suggest that she be chained to her desk by Rendell so she doesn't appear at any more military "functions".


351 posted on 07/25/2005 8:29:38 PM PDT by Skyray (For God , Country and our Military!)
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To: small voice in the wilderness

There is no limit to the depyjs that a Democrat will go. And as bad as it seems at this time, it is going to reach a point that this will be considered one of their more decent moves.

Wait until the Presidental election in '08.


352 posted on 07/25/2005 8:37:28 PM PDT by sport
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To: SERKIT

Did you possibly mean WITCH government?


353 posted on 07/25/2005 8:51:03 PM PDT by Skyray (For God , Country and our Military!)
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To: mware

I did do an interview with Tony Snow this morning. I will also be appearing on Fox news today. The interview is set up for 240 pm eastern time with Martha Macallum. Thanks to all of you CBK's behavior is known nation wide. The tribune-reveiw newspaper in Pittsburgh has an article containing emails from all over on this matter.
Thank you gain EVERYONE for your support


354 posted on 07/26/2005 7:01:27 AM PDT by Rhonda-in-indiana-pa
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To: Rhonda-in-indiana-pa
I was listening on the Tony Snow Thread. You did wonderful.

What was so despicable about the whole thing was she used your families profound grief to attack what your brother died defending.

355 posted on 07/26/2005 7:04:36 AM PDT by mware ("God is dead" -- Nietzsch"....... "Nope, you are"-- GOD)
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To: learner
The Pennsylvania funeral furor
townhall.com ^ | July 26, 2005 | by Jay Bryant

356 posted on 07/26/2005 8:19:45 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: Rhonda-in-indiana-pa

Hi Rhonda in Indiana. I am so sorry for your loss.
I am new to PA, and I find this behavior reprehensible. I will make sure I'm educated on PA politics.


357 posted on 07/26/2005 12:38:13 PM PDT by merry10
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To: Born Conservative
Thank you for the ping-- this is reprehensible and I cannot believe there would be no consequences for her behavior. Rendell's feet have to be held to the fire.
358 posted on 07/26/2005 1:58:02 PM PDT by I_like_good_things_too
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To: zyzzyg

Are you serious?

Read the sister-in-law's letter. Several things really bothered me here. 1) Knoll upon arriving late and 2) uninvited, 3) sat next to a family member, 4) interupting Communion (one of the most sacred of all Christian rites), to 5) pass out her card and 6) declare "Our government is against this war." OMG - unbelievable! Expressing her anti-war stance at a marine's funeral is campaigning at it's lowest form in my estimation! AND if you are late and uninvited you do not sit next to a family member!!!


359 posted on 07/26/2005 3:52:18 PM PDT by GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos (Peace on earth! After major whup-a$$)
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To: GoodWithBarbarians JustForKaos

I did an interview with FOX NEWS.If you go to www.foxnews.com www.fox.news.com--Go to Fox fans
you'll see the interveiw and hear the interview I did with Tony Snow. There is even a speak out on the video to write opinions. Thanks again to everyone for AAAALLLLL the support. It's good to know there are actually people who get it, and understand it.
Rhonda Goodrich


360 posted on 07/26/2005 11:34:56 PM PDT by Rhonda-in-indiana-pa
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