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Did Wilson's Wife "Recommend" Bombing The Chinese Embassy Too? Is CPD A Rogue CIA Unit?
New York Times Reports on Embassy Bombing Investigation ^ | April 28, 2000 | Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting

Posted on 07/20/2005 7:17:44 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul

Came across an article by Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting, "ACTIVISM UPDATE: New York Times Reports on Embassy Bombing Investigation" dated April 28, 2000.

Lo and behold, the cause of the bombing of the Chinese Embassy during Clinton's Bosnia adventurism was the CIA's Counter-Proliferation Division (CPD), the home away from home for Valerie Plame.

FAIR, and who's fairer than Jeff Cohen, states that CPD had no targeting expertise to offer, displaced the CIA's designated targeting unit, "recommended" the target to NATO and Pentagon without being asked, used maps unsuitable for targeting, used methodology unsuited for the task, downloaded a forms from a secure Pentagon computer, filled out the forms and submitted them to Joint Staff (despite the imagery not resembling a warehouse or government building).

All while CPD analysts warned that China was "the most significant supplier of weapons of mass destruction-related goods and technology to foreign countries" and fighting with the Clinton White House over "engagement" with China.

Sounds like CPD conducts, better yet, acts out it's own foreign policy, no make that goes to war on it's own "recommendation" when it disagrees with the President of the United States.

Here are some relevant paragraphs from the FAIR article:

On April 17, the New York Times published the results of its investigation into the May 1999 bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade. The article, which reveals many new details about the bombing, should be viewed by media activists as a welcome development in the effort to shed journalistic light on the incident.

According to the Times' account, although the CIA has its own targeting unit, it was instead the agency's Counter-Proliferation Division (CPD), "a small office whose focus [is] the spread of missiles and nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons," that proposed the embassy target. The CPD has no experience or expertise in targeting or in the Balkans. It nominated the target on its own initiative, apparently without being solicited by NATO or the Pentagon.

Although the Times does not mention it, the CPD is a covert operations unit, located within the CIA's Directorate of Operations rather than its Directorate of Intelligence. In a 1997 report to Congress, CIA counter-proliferation analysts singled out China as "the most significant supplier of weapons of mass destruction-related goods and technology to foreign countries." Counter-proliferation officials have been embroiled for years in a fight with the Clinton administration over its policy of "engagement" with China.

The Times' sources say that the CPD's intended target, located near the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, was the Yugoslav Federal Directorate of Supply and Procurement (FDSP). The targeting was done by a CPD analyst using an unclassified 1997 map of Belgrade provided by the National Imagery and Mapping Agency (NIMA). The map, which was not intended to be used for aerial targeting, did not identify street address numbers.

The Times' sources claim that the analyst misidentified the embassy as the FDSP when he attempted to pinpoint the FDSP's address on the map by extrapolating from addresses on parallel streets. "To target based on that is incomprehensible," an official told the Times.

While the Times' sources say the aerial photographs of the site provided by a NIMA official-- which showed the Chinese embassy-- raised no questions at the CIA, a senior intelligence official told the Times that "it should have been apparent to any imagery expert that the building shown did not look remotely like a warehouse or any Serbian government building."

On his own initiative, the analyst then downloaded a targeting form from a secure Pentagon computer, filled it out and sent it to the Joint Chiefs of Staff "appearing to be a more advanced proposal than it was," according to Myers. The Joint Chiefs never conducted a thorough review of the target; "the reasons are not clear," Myers writes. All of the Joint Chiefs refused interviews with Myers, who is the Times' Pentagon correspondent.

Eight days before the embassy was struck, another CIA analyst tried to prevent the bombing from taking place. He had no authority to review targets-- "or even to know what they were"-- but he called the NIMA official, telling him he had "heard informally" that the FDSP's actual location was 1,000 yards south of the targeted embassy building. The NIMA official tried unsuccessfully to arrange a meeting between the two officers.

A few days later, NIMA provided the skeptical CIA officer with six additional images of the building, which confirmed to him that the building was not the FDSP. At that point, The CIA officer raised his concerns with military officials in Naples. According to those officers, he "did not make his questions...sound grave enough to remove the target from the list."

In the end, despite its supposed value as a target, the FDSP was never bombed.


Is "Joe Izusu" her second recommendation resulting in blowback for the Agency?

What role did she play in this earlier rogue adventure against a President with whom CPD had a "disagreement"?


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; joeisuzu; josephwilson; plame
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To: Doctor Raoul

I want to be just like you, when I grow up.


21 posted on 07/20/2005 8:00:07 PM PDT by Trueblackman (Terrorism and Liberalism never sleep and neither do I)
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To: Doctor Raoul
Hello,

This does fit in with VPlame's apparent distain for the US. However, didn't everyone with that opinion vote for and support Bill Clinton? I heard on Rush that she registered to vote under her undercover name in order to vote for Gore. Why would she and her CIA unit cause such a mess with the Chinese?

I am sure there is much more to this story than I am getting at this point, and would appreciate any insights you, or others, could provide.

Glad to be here, MOgirl
22 posted on 07/20/2005 8:00:51 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: MOgirl

Another clue ~ this may well answer the question of why the Democrats wanted to keep her identity secret!


23 posted on 07/20/2005 8:03:11 PM PDT by muawiyah (/ hey coach do I gotta' put in that "/sarcasm " thing again?)
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To: Doctor Raoul; All

"IS CPD A ROGUE CIA UNIT?"

{{{{{TAKE A LOOK AT THIS}}}}}

Former CIA agents tell RNC to shut up

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1446721/posts?q=1&&page=1


24 posted on 07/20/2005 8:04:12 PM PDT by txrangerette
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To: muawiyah
Hello,

Well, that makes sense. But, (not a but-monkey, for you Laura fans), she apparently outed herself, as did Wilson, practically daily. Now, being know inside the Beltway is not the same as being known in the "real world", so again, you may be on to something.

Glad to be here, thanks for the info, Mogirl
25 posted on 07/20/2005 8:07:30 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: MOgirl

There was a rumor floating around about the time of the embassy bombing that the Chinese were concealing a radar capable of detecting our stealth aircraft in the embassy and the raid was carried out to disable it.

Such a radar exists but I'm not sure it could be located in one spot because, from what I read, it requires inputs from several different sites to compile the data making detection possible. Just another tin foil hat possibility.


26 posted on 07/20/2005 8:14:02 PM PDT by Arkie2 (No, I never voted for Bill Clinton. I don't plan on voting Republican again!)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Wasn't Val suffering from postpartum depression in at some point in 2000?


27 posted on 07/20/2005 8:19:03 PM PDT by syriacus (To WHICH entity does LIBELLER JOE WILSON pledge is allegiance?)
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To: Doctor Raoul; Howlin
Joe Wilson is Joe Isuzu? LOL


28 posted on 07/20/2005 8:21:37 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Doctor Raoul

Very interesting find! Maybe this will blow that little Commie Plame and her rogue buddies right out of the water!


29 posted on 07/20/2005 8:22:14 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Miss Marple

With a $14,000 gold Rolex, doncha know?


30 posted on 07/20/2005 8:28:14 PM PDT by Howlin (Today is my 7 year FR anniversary!)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Oh that would be a great PhotoShop. Joe Isuzu with Val...


31 posted on 07/20/2005 8:28:40 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: Doctor Raoul

IF so, the 11 retires who stood up for her being covert(another article on FR today) may have been her co-workers.


32 posted on 07/20/2005 8:30:17 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Doctor Raoul
Sounds like CPD conducts, better yet, acts out it's own foreign policy,

Mary Madalin today on TV said something very interesting. The White House didn't even know who Joe Wilson was, why he went to Africa, who sent him, and why he was reporting an "investigation" when he got back.

See? This investigation is not about Rove. Rove is luring the press away from the investigation so Fitzgerald can do his job without the press butting in or leaking information.

33 posted on 07/20/2005 8:30:48 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Arkie2
You'd have thought that that giant stainless steel circular exhaust fan on the exterior wall of the kitchen might have tipped off CPD that it's a Chinese place of some sort...
34 posted on 07/20/2005 8:30:54 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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To: GOPJ; Mo1

Joe Isuzu Plame Wilson ping


35 posted on 07/20/2005 8:31:05 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Thanks for the ping.


36 posted on 07/20/2005 8:35:54 PM PDT by GOPJ (A person who will lie for you, will lie against you.)
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To: txrangerette
{{{{TAKE A LOOK AT THIS}}}}}

They're all Kerry supporters. I read the thread on DU. They're left wing / anti-Bush.

37 posted on 07/20/2005 8:38:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Arkie2
Hello,

I have a vague memory of that rumor, but putting this all together is as far out of my ability tonight as possible. (Too many days with too many small boys can make anyone brain dead!) However, I do think that FR should continue to pursue what V Plame has been up to for one major reason: she is nowhere (except a puff piece in Vanity Fair), and no one ever has (TMK), put together a in-depth history of her. She is like the "No Where Man". If I understand her background, she was taken out of covert status in '97. What has she been up to? Inquiring minds want to know. '
Thanks for the info, glad to be here, MOgirl
38 posted on 07/20/2005 8:39:51 PM PDT by MOgirl (In memory of Walton Wayne Callahan, I love you forever.)
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To: Spirited
IF so, the 11 retires who stood up for her being covert(another article on FR today) may have been her co-workers.

They were spewing left wing talking points through their whole letter to the Washington Democrats. To them, Wilson was an honest man!!! They had no idea what was going on with Wilson. They're Kerry supporters !!!

39 posted on 07/20/2005 8:43:52 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("A people without a heritage are easily persuaded (deceived)" - Karl Marx)
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To: Spirited
IF so, the 11 retires who stood up for her being covert(another article on FR today) may have been her co-workers.

I'd bet $10 that one of the 11 is Larry Johnson.

Don't see him much on TV anymore, not even MSNBC.

40 posted on 07/20/2005 8:44:58 PM PDT by Doctor Raoul (Support Our Troops, Spit On A Liberal Reporter)
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