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London bomb suspect linked to Ore. terror camp (terrorists on the left coast)
kgw.com ^ | Wednesday, July 20, 2005 | By kgw.com, NBC and CNN Staff (Spaltter)

Posted on 07/20/2005 6:41:28 PM PDT by Splatter

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Investigators probing the London terror bombings are focusing on an elusive British Muslim suspect who is connected to a previous plot to set up a terrorist training camp in rural southern Oregon, according to U.S. counterterrorism officials.

Officials told both NBC News and CNN Wednesday that Haroon Rashid Aswat, believed to be a mastermind of the London bombings, is the same British-born Muslim of Indian descent who scouted a Bly, Oregon ranch to set up a terror camp.

These officials said Aswat, a Pakistani national being sought for questioning as a person of interest by British authorities, was among three unindicted co-conspirators in the Oregon incident.

U.S. officials said a 2002 indictment in the Bly case links Aswat directly to Abu Hamza al-Masri, a fiery, one-eyed radical cleric from a London mosque who is now on trial in Britain for possessing al-Qaida literature and inciting the killing of Jews and other non-Muslims.

"I think this just gives us a glimpse into what might be happening inside the United States," said retired Air Force Lt. Col. Rick Francona, an NBC News terrorism expert. "We were able to uncover one operation — how many others are out there?"

"What's very scary is not only can they travel very easily through Europe, they could travel very easily to the United States because of their British citizenship," added retired Portland State University professer Gary Perlstein, a KGW terrorism expert.

The documents reveal Aswat worked with a Seattle man, James Ujaama, who pleaded guilty in 2003 to a charge of providing support to the Taliban for his role in trying to set up the "jihad training camp." Ujaama is now cooperating with federal prosecutors.

The southern Oregon ranch that may have been scouted as a potential terrorist training camp. (KGW Photo)

Court documents in the Ujaama case said a conspirator, whom U.S. officials identified as Aswat, arrived in New York City in November 1999 on Abu Hamza's orders. He made his way to Oregon, according to the documents, "for the purpose of evaluating the Bly property as a jihad training camp."

In the indictment, prosecutors also alleged the conspirators "met potential candidates for jihad training ... established security for the Bly property ... and they and others participated in firearms training and viewed a video recording on the subject of improvised poisons."

The documents also said Aswat, along with another conspirator, lived in Seattle in early 2000 and "expounded on the teachings" of Abu Hamza.

Aswat, in his early 30s, has family that lives in Leeds in northern England, where three of the four suspected London suicide bombers resided. At his family's house, neighbors said they haven't seen Aswat in nearly 10 years.

Aswat's believed to be hiding out in Pakistan, where government officials said he wasn't in custody and remained at large as of Wednesday night.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
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To: Splatter
Because is IS OREGON!

I suggest you read #120.

121 posted on 07/21/2005 8:05:28 AM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: Salvation

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Be Ever Vigilant!

Minutemen Patriots ~ Bump!


122 posted on 07/21/2005 8:30:44 AM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: Splatter

I never believed the b. s. about it being a mistaken match of the fingerprint. I don't believe in coincidences like that. I don't believe that Yee was innocent, either.

I am sure that Mayfield and Yee are both on the watch list, anyway. The fact that Yee and Mayfield both had connections to this guy in Pakistan is enough of a coincidence.


123 posted on 07/21/2005 8:35:00 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Baynative

Thats because Ron Sims is a liberal pu$$y. Dig a little deeper in King Co and I'd not be surprised to find some more significant terror connections. Youpander to this shit and you reap what you sow


124 posted on 07/21/2005 8:48:20 AM PDT by Horatio Gates (Ye olde roadside donuthouse hooligan)
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To: Grampa Dave; backhoe; Cindy
Thanks for the ping, running way behind on my reading, and now we have a late night memory thread going back three plus years interrupted by the morning's happenings in London.

And I was trying to take a break from all the Supreme court hysteria,.....Geez!
125 posted on 07/21/2005 10:30:30 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Isn't it amazing how some of the same Jihadist names keep popping over the years?


126 posted on 07/21/2005 10:39:29 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Isn't it amazing how some of the same Jihadist names keep popping over the years?

Says a lot about our seriousness in the War on Terror, of course we have the internal battle with the Leftists.

127 posted on 07/21/2005 10:55:28 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The same pro lefty names in congress keep popping up:

Boxer, Pelosi Galore, Reid, Kennedy, Chuckie, Kerri and others.


128 posted on 07/21/2005 11:01:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (The civilized world must win WW IV/the Final Crusade and destroy Jihadism!)
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To: Splatter

If memory serves the Bly (OR) Advanced Training and Buttrocking Phacility just didn't work out. Oregon actually only has about two blue counties and where Bly is is deep red. Picture this: An Arab guy who talks somewhat cockney goes shopping for a "ranch" deep in the heart of serious cowboy/lumberjack country. He's not gonna stand out (snicker)! As soon as he tries to order in sacrificial goat word was soon to get around. While we have a cosmopolitan crowd in downtown Portland the rest of the state is all but solid white----I expect profiling is not out of fashion in the red zone so that middle east dirtbagz will have short careers here.


129 posted on 07/21/2005 11:42:00 AM PDT by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: All

Related link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1447746/posts
"Britain seeks suspect from Oregon Case Britain seeks suspect linked to Oregon case"
Oregonlive.com ^ | July 21, 2005 | LES ZAITZ
Posted on 07/21/2005 11:40:57 AM PDT by radar101


130 posted on 07/21/2005 12:35:06 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Splatter

"What's very scary is not only can they travel very easily through Europe, they could travel very easily to the United States because of their British citizenship," added retired Portland State University professer Gary Perlstein, a KGW terrorism expert.

This situation would be a lot less scary if our two governments were not so hell bent on being PR instead of profiling and random searches on middle eastern men between 18-40.


131 posted on 07/21/2005 12:44:54 PM PDT by quantfive
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To: Cougar66; Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Dog Gone; tubebender
"one eyed bastards is a better term THAN masterminds."

We need a new deck of playing cards so we can play seven card stud with "one eyed Kings" and "bedpost Queens" being wild!!!

132 posted on 07/21/2005 12:58:22 PM PDT by SierraWasp (What other nation could spear a comet in deep space on independence holiday? God Bless America!!!)
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To: Splatter
The fungus among us...

PORTLAND, Oregon, (CNN) -- Six U.S. residents charged with
conspiring to assist al Qaeda and the Taliban in
waging war against the United States...

Click the pic:

Top row, left to right: Patrice Lumumba
Ford, October Martinique Lewis and
Jeffrey Leon Battle. Bottom row, left to
right: Muhammad Ibrahim Bilal, Ahmed
Ibrahim Bilal, and Habis Abdulla Al-Saoub.


133 posted on 07/21/2005 1:17:30 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

I know that case all too well.

These scumbags were "target practicing" in a gravel pit near my home. I actually saw them driving their minivan as they left the seen. I noticed them because they had towels on their heads. You just don't see friggin towel heads driving minivans around here. They stuck out like turds in a punch bowl.

Yes, I PROFILE.


134 posted on 07/21/2005 2:16:04 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Eva
Portland attorney Brandon Mayfield.

His attorney was Gerry Spence.

135 posted on 07/21/2005 2:21:38 PM PDT by the anti-liberal (Crap impersonating intellectual discourse is the final fruit of decadence (It's time the Left left!))
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To: Splatter

Is it true that the socialist City of Portland and its police chief refused to cooperate with the feds (FBI, etc.) in going after the Islamoterrorists and that the Oregon 6 were discovered by a cop from Washington state out on a drive, and not by competent police work by Oregon authorities?


136 posted on 07/21/2005 3:20:26 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7
Yes, Portland OR has refused to work with the Feds and has pulled out of the JTTF (joint terrorism task force). I have long predicted attacks will happen as a result of these "elected leaders" and their PC policies.

As for the Oregon 6 (really 7 because the lone woman was not allowed to participate, but she knew what was up) and their target practice, A person who lived near the gravel pit heard shots and called the cops. Washington cop went to investigate, found towel heads with automatic weapons, took names and numbers, notified the FBI and the rest is history. NO THANKS TO OREGON! They had plenty of Portland protesters at the court house, until the guilty peas. The Mayor of Portland (crazy Katz) previously had one of the wannabe terrorist as an intern in her office.

If the terrorists had their way Portland would earn it's nickname "Stump Town". Smoldering stumps and creeping death.
137 posted on 07/21/2005 3:39:06 PM PDT by Splatter (A foolish man is able to learn, has the opportunity, and does not do it..)
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To: Black Tooth

From the article he "lived in Seattle in early 2000".

The Seattle Times article for today said he lived in Seattle for 2 months in a MOSQUE in Seattle. The mosque was a small storefront thing, looked to be in a run-down area. Ujamma went there too.

The mosque was closed due to damage from an earthquake in 2000 the paper said (although I think the quake was in Feb. 2001).

Also - Ujamma has been free now for a year or more. And it doesn't sound like he's used as a witness anymore.


138 posted on 07/21/2005 3:52:25 PM PDT by geopyg ("It's not that liberals don't know much, it's just that what they know just ain't so." (~ R. Reagan))
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To: Splatter

Unreal.
Somebody wake me up fom this nightmare.....


139 posted on 07/21/2005 4:41:21 PM PDT by XR7
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To: XR7

They couldn't find the seventh person to charge because his trail just died in Afghanistan. They figured he did too.


140 posted on 07/21/2005 5:26:04 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 ( Heaven on Earth is where the nearest Starbucks is 60 miles away.)
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