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ALLAH OR JESUS?
Amazing Facts ^ | Rick Mathes

Posted on 07/20/2005 7:30:23 AM PDT by RUSHLUVER

Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes

Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.

I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.

When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:

"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"

There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"

The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."

I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"

The Imam was speechless.

I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me.

Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"

You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.

Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.

I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.

Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: islam; muslim; waronterror
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To: EdReform; RUSHLUVER; USF; Fred Nerks; Dark Skies; ariamne; AmericanArchConservative
Thank you for the ping Ed!


Yes, I have read this before, but it was not only GREAT to read it again, but to also read Rick Mathes' "Did this really happen? " explanation about the "false" report by snopes. For those complaining about it being old news...why not just move on?


As to how accurate the account is...the bottom line is, prisoners are being converted to Islam in our prisons and they are becoming an even greater threat to our society then they were before they went in! It gives a whole new meaning to the word "rehabilitation.


Yes, the Koran does command its followers to kill the infidels...when provoked...and all it takes to be provoked is an imam saying so. Killing an infidel is also the ONE way they can guarantee entering Paradise, which is why so many are willing to kill themselves as they murder "infidels."

As for comparing Allah and Jesus?

Actually, the comparison should be between Jesus and Mohamed, and personally I see no comparison!

One teaches love, forgiveness, compassion,free will,and hope. He lived a perfect life and died for us offering Eternal Life to all who accept His gift.

The other teaches hate, vengeance,death, forced submission, spills others blood and in the end, its up to Allah if you get into Paradise...unless you die a martyr...then you are guaranteed entering Paradise!

Why is it so hard for people to comprehend that Islam is NOT a Religion of Peace?

41 posted on 07/20/2005 12:58:45 PM PDT by jan in Colorado ("My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." Hosea 4:6)
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To: MEGoody
Well, you are probably right .. I have been called strange before ... yawn.
42 posted on 07/20/2005 1:28:24 PM PDT by roylene
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To: iconoclast

"It's been all over for some time.
Including in my email.
Several times."

The new part is the email dated this morning from the guy involved saying it did happen and disputing snopes.com on the event.


43 posted on 07/20/2005 5:47:18 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: RUSHLUVER
Video of Drs. Emir and Ergun Caner, former Muslims, on the Ankerberg show.
44 posted on 07/20/2005 6:08:11 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: blueberry12; TKDietz

The head DA in this rural county told me before he retired that the only thing that will reduce crime - especially the kind of crime in which people spend a couple or three years in prison - is eliminating prison sentences, and instituting public caning.

He was absolutely serious. Public pain and public shame. Over quickly, no bad association to learn how to be a worse criminal, no opportunity to convert to Islam, and cheap! Plus criminal wannabes can see it and re-think their life plans.


45 posted on 07/20/2005 9:22:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: sportutegrl

I don't even bother with snopes. A few years ago I read every book about Clinton and his evil partner in crime aka Hitlery that I could find. Then, just to see what snopes had to say, I checked a couple of things particularly about Hillary. (can't remember what they are now, but there were referenced, footnoted, and so on.)

Snopes denied the truth. They are liberal. They are not the absolute truth. You can google just as well as they can. And google isn't foolproof either.


46 posted on 07/20/2005 9:25:25 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: Valpal1

I've had a problem with Snopes ever since I found out that they claimed that "Tarzan of the Apes" was Edgar Rice Burroughs first book.


47 posted on 07/20/2005 9:30:30 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: TKDietz

I appreciate your first hand experience comments. Thanks for posting them.

If all murderers, rapists and child molesters were executed that would clear the decks some. Then the public caning could take care of a lot of them.


48 posted on 07/20/2005 9:33:36 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: jan in Colorado

islam is nothing more than a C.O.D-P.R.O.P.* {Cult Of Death-Phony Religion Of Peace}

alla-uzza is satan

muhammad was a daemon-possessed liar, a syphilitically insane plagiarist of religions and philosophies, a goat-molesting paedophiliac false prophet, and warmonger.

All in all, he was a pretty normal arab, in other words...

A.A.C.

"Where's my Fatwa? I demand to see imam Cat Stevens now!"


49 posted on 07/21/2005 2:04:35 AM PDT by AmericanArchConservative (Armour on, Lances high, Swords out, Bows drawn, Shields front ... Eagles UP!)
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To: TKDietz
I know in my state most prisons are prison farms where they make people work. I've been to several of these facilities. They are overcrowded, extremely unpleasant places to be.

Sounds like at least one state gets it. I've seen or heard of far too many prisons with hot running water, TV's weight equipment etc.

Prison should be a 4' x 7' box that the inmate stays in until his sentence is served. For violent criminals it should be a much smaller box that the criminals body is disposed of in.

I also like the one sheriff who dresses his inmates in pink and publicly humilates them. Shame is a powerful motivator

You can say our problem is not that we have too many people in prison, but the reality is that is a major problem for us. It is costing us an absolute fortune and there seems to be no end in sight to the prison population explosion.

Kill the violent ones and the problem goes away. Lots of space left over.

Maybe we do need to execute more folks

Most definately. Dead perps do not commit more crimes. Also serves as a powerful motivator if the perp KNOWS that if he uses a gun in commission of a crime that he'll be put to death. If he commits a violent crime (murder, assault, rape) he'll be put to death. If he molests a child he'll be put to death.

Another poster mentioned public caning. I'd be all for that too. One of our problems is that we've lost the concept of shame. Public humiliation and shaming is a good thing.

50 posted on 07/21/2005 6:01:08 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: little jeremiah

I suppose you may be right. I mostly use it for the multi-forwarded email messages I get with unbelievable warnings, stories, etc. They seem to do a good job of debunking that stuff.


51 posted on 07/21/2005 8:13:22 AM PDT by sportutegrl (People who say, "All I know is . . ." really mean, "All I want you to focus on is . . .")
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To: sportutegrl

Snopes is one of the filters - they just can't be believed with 100% faith, especially with issues about which they could hold a bias.

Very little in this world can be worthy of 100% faith.


52 posted on 07/21/2005 8:44:13 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: RUSHLUVER
I'm gonna die! Jesus, Allah, Buddha - I love you all!


53 posted on 07/21/2005 8:50:55 AM PDT by BikerNYC
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BTTT


54 posted on 07/21/2005 8:57:01 AM PDT by RedBeaconNY (My cat has a cold.)
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