Posted on 07/20/2005 7:30:23 AM PDT by RUSHLUVER
Allah or Jesus? by Rick Mathes
Last month I attended my annual training session that's required for maintaining my state prison security clearance. During the training session there was a presentation by three speakers representing the Roman Catholic, Protestant and Muslim faiths, who explained each of their belief systems.
I was particularly interested in what the Islamic Imam had to say. The Imam gave a great presentation of the basics of Islam, complete with a video. After the presentations, time was provided for questions and answers.
When it was my turn, I directed my question to the Imam and asked:
"Please, correct me if I'm wrong, but I understand that most Imams and clerics of Islam have declared a holy jihad [Holy war] against the infidels of the world. And, that by killing an infidel, which is a command to all Muslims, they are assured of a place in heaven. If that's the case, can you give me the definition of an infidel?"
There was no disagreement with my statements and, without hesitation, he replied, "Non-believers!" I responded, "So, let me make sure I have this straight. All followers of Allah have been commanded to kill everyone who is not of your faith so they can go to Heaven. Is that correct?"
The expression on his face changed from one of authority and command to that of a little boy who had just gotten caught with his hand in the cookie jar. He sheepishly replied, "Yes."
I then stated, "Well, sir, I have a real problem trying to imagine Pope John Paul commanding all Catholics to kill those of your faith or Dr. Stanley ordering Protestants to do the same in order to go to Heaven!"
The Imam was speechless.
I continued, "I also have a problem with being your friend when you and your brother clerics are telling your followers to kill me.
Let me ask you a question. Would you rather have your Allah who tells you to kill me in order to go to Heaven or my Jesus who tells me to love you because I am going to Heaven and He wants you to be with me?"
You could have heard a pin drop as the Imam hung his head in shame.
Needless to say, the organizers and/or promoters of the 'Diversification' training seminar were not happy with Rick's way of dealing with the Islamic Imam and exposing the truth about the Muslim's beliefs.
I think everyone in the US should be required to read this, but with the liberal justice system, liberal media, and the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized.
Please pass this on to all your e-mail contacts. This is a true story and the author, Rick Mathes, is a well known leader in prison ministry.
Send this information to all your friends in emails and letters. Post this information on your web site and on news services. Post the free creation v. evolution animations and any of the other free animations on your web sites or send them in emails.
Not only an old old story ... yawn!
I disagree with a lot of what this guy says, but his response directed specifically at Mathes is on target:
http://www.travisswicegood.com/index.php/2005/01/16/my_response_to_rick_mathes
JESUS ping !!!
BTTT!
The minute I read snope's debunk of Russian miners digging to hell, I knew there had to be a left-wing liberal agenda underneith their research.
It may or may not be old news but it is relevant...
A couple hours ago, I was watching George the President on tv...As usual he was talking about his WOT...
When he made the statement that a few radical muzlims are terrorizing people and these few muzlims have distorted the meaning of the koran and are doing serious harm to the GREAT religion of Izlam, I had to walk away from the tv...
Pathetic...Pitiful...
Personally, I've seen this "shocking new revelation" come out on the Freerepublic more times than the NYT has 'discovered' Bush's National Guard record. Just the same, but it's good when someone like yourself goes to the trouble to respond so that the new guys can be let in on the joke.
I think that it does not matter if this is old news, for it needs to be told to those who have missed out. I have studied Islam, and I do believe that most who are not Muslim can understand this for is seems so inhumane, but this is for real. Muslims have actually come out of the Dark Ages like this with no respect for human life. It is hard for an outsider to understand how people living today and be such savages.
I studied Islam because I had a question that I wanted answered, and the question was "Why would anyone in their right mind believe in Islam?
Muslims have their beliefs all waiting for them if they have a Muslim father, that little baby has no choice but to be a Muslim, and then the Muslim countries enforce this and they have great penaltys for leaving Islam or denoucning Mohammed. Islam is not a system of free will, and Islam is a brain washing scheme from the cradle to the grave.
If we have been born free, we really need to thank God, over and over again. The God of the bible is not the god of Mohammed, the one who passes out 72 hooris for each man to have sex with , (perpetual virgins) in Mohammed's Paradise.
BTW, I agree that Islam is a cult and that it seems that more people are waking up to that fact than ever before. This is why the MSM is pushing the "peaceful Muslim" angle lately.
BTTT
If you're going to fix the problem, really fix the problem. If the recidivism rate is so high, then for all perps sentenced to 15 years or more, convert the sentence into a death penalty and get them away from us for good.
Our problem is not too many people in prison, it's that we coddle too many people in prison. Prison is not a rehabilitation facilty, it's a place where people are punished. It should be as unpleasant as possible.
I've never seen it before.
Curiouser and curiouser - people click on a thread and take the time to post - just to say it's old news and indicate they are bored by it.
How strange.
I hate to be the resident cynic ... but it's a "feel good", accomplish little or no good piece.
Nope, I was personally aware of and familiar with the UPS uniforms sold on Ebay urban legend and the resulting investigations when they occurred in Dec 02-Jan 03 months before it was an urban legend and they got around to investigating.
The first Snopes "debunking" article was wildly inaccurate and mostly quoted lies from ebay corporate.
It wasn't until after WorldNetDaily.com wrote an article on it in May 03 that they updated (July 03) to be more in line with actual facts.
They were so far off the mark on such a simple story that I realized that everything they wrote was now suspect.
Neither article discloses much, but in general I can tell you that Ebay corporate tells lies even when the truth is good news and that UPS corporate is upstanding, proactive and responsible, but they'll both deny everything ;-)
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