Durbin Kennedy Schumer
Posted on 07/19/2005 8:36:00 PM PDT by Founding Father
The Incredible Chuck Schumer
By: Leon H
I generally try to avoid posts that poke fun at either Teddy Kennedy or Chuck Schumer on the basis that they're such easy targets, it takes all the fun out of the sport. It's about like hunting cows in Southwest Oklahoma. However, Schumer's response to the Roberts nomination is just too juicy for even me to resist.
After the announcement of Roberts as Bush's first SCOTUS nominee, Schumer wasted no time letting everyone know that he was going to be the one to carry the water for the moonbats this go-round. What was particularly stunning to me was the audacity Schumer displayed in the tactic he is apparently going to use during the upcoming character assass... I mean, confirmation hearings. It appears that Schumer will attempt to beat Roberts around the head for refusing to answer questions:
I voted against Judge Roberts for the D.C. Court of Appeals because he didn't answer questions fully and openly when he appeared before the committee. I hope Judge Roberts, understanding how important this nomination is — particularly when replacing a swing vote on the court — will decide to answer questions about his views. I hope, for the sake of the country, that Judge Roberts understands this and opens questions — sorry, and answers questions — openly, honestly and thoroughly. Gee, what a thorough guy that Chuck Schumer is. Why, he's so goshdarn concerned that the nominee for a position as important as Associate Justice of the SCOTUS would answer each and every single question that he just couldn't allow a nominee who refused to answer "important questions about their views" through. What a stand up guy.
For instance, I'm sure that Schumer led the fight against Ruth Bader Ginsburg, whose confirmation hearings were the gold-standard for question refusal in confirmation hearings (Much thanks to our good friends at the Federalist Society). For a bit of important historical background, Democrat committee chair Joe Biden kicked off the hearings by announcing thus:
[T]he public is best served by questions that initiate a dialog with the nominee, not about how she will decide any specific case that may come before her, but about the spirit and the method she will bring to the task of judging. There is a real difference … between questions that focus on specific results or outcomes, the answers to which would risk compromising a nominee’s independence and impartiality, and questions on judicial methods and philosophy. The former can undermine the dispassionate and unprejudiced judgment we expect the nominee to exercise as a Justice. But the latter are essential and contribute critically to our public dialog.” (all emphasis mine) Ginsburg decided this advice was swell, and took it one step further:
In answering questions before the Judiciary Committee, Justice Ginsburg added her own twist to Senator Biden’s standard for nominees. While Senator Biden had said that a nominee should decline to answer questions about how she would decide a specific case, which suggests that only prospective cases are off-limits, Justice Ginsburg declined to answer questions about her views on both prospective and many historical Supreme Court cases. She also declined to answer questions (or gave non-responsive answers to questions) involving a number of controversial issues, hypothetical facts, or areas in which she is not an expert.
Justice Ginsburg emphasized that judges decide cases based upon real-world facts and that appellate judges are presented with a developed factual record in each case. Justice Ginsburg cited this as a reason to decline to answer questions that were either completely hypothetical or that were vague in their factual underpinnings. Examples, anyone?
Senator Thurmond. … [B]ased upon your understanding of the U.S. Constitution, do communities, cities, counties and States have sufficient flexibility to experiment with and provide for diverse educational environments aided by public funding and geared to the particular needs of individual students of their particular area of jurisdiction?
Judge Ginsburg. Senator Thurmond, that is the kind of question that a judge cannot answer at-large. The judge will consider a specific program in a specific school situation, together with the legal arguments for or against that program, but it cannot be answered in the abstract. As you well know, judges work from the particular case, not from the general proposition.
Ginsburg also refused to answer questions on very controversial issues, claiming that she was ignorant of the subject matter at hand:
Senator Feinstein. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Just to try to pursue that a little bit further, Judge Ginsburg , could you talk at all about the methodology you might apply, what factors you might look at in discussing Second Amendment cases should Congress, say, pass a ban on assault weapons?
Judge Ginsburg. I wish I could, Senator, but all I can tell you is that this is an amendment that has not been looked at by the Supreme Court since 1939. And apart from the specific context, I really can't expound on it. It is on area in which my court has had no business, and one I had no acquaintance as a law teacher. So I really feel that I am not equipped beyond what I already told you, that it isn't an incorporated amendment. The Supreme Court has not dealt with it since 1939, and I would proceed with the care that I give to any serious constitutional question.
Ginsburg also flatly refused to answer questions on any case (or even any broad issue) that might conceivably come before the SCOTUS during her tenure:
Senator Thurmond. What are your views on the constitutionality of some form of voucher system, so that working and middle-class parents can receive more choice in selecting the best education available for their children?
Judge Ginsburg. Senator Thurmond, aid to schools is a question that comes up again and again before the Supreme Court. This is the very kind of question that I ruled out.
Senator Thurmond. Would you prefer not to answer?
Judge Ginsburg. Yes.
Senator Brown. I wanted to cover one last area, and it may be an area you would prefer not to explore. If you do, I would certainly understand. I believe earlier on Senator Cohen and others had brought up a question with regard to homosexual rights.
Judge Ginsburg. Senator Brown, I am so glad you prefaced this by saying you would understand if I resisted a response, because this is an area where I sense that anything I say could be taken as a hint or a forecast on how I would treat a classification that is going to be in question before a court, and ultimately the Supreme Court. So I think it is best that I not do anything that could be seen, be used as a prediction of how I might vote with regard to that classification.
Ginsburg also (and this is of quintissential importance) declined to give anything that might be construed as a personal view, even if it had nothing to do with law:
Senator Pressler. Are you uncomfortable that the Constitution's Bill of Rights does not extend to Native Americans?
Judge Ginsburg. I can't express my personal view on that subject.
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Senator Simon. [I]f I can ask, not in commenting on the substance of the Alvarez case--incidentally, he was tried in the United States and not found guilty--but were you at all startled, when you heard about the results of the Alvarez case?
Judge Ginsburg. If I may, Senator, I would not like to comment on my personal reactions to that case. I think I told you what my view is on how U.S. officials should behave, and I would like to leave it at that. This was a decision of the United States Supreme Court that you have cited, and I have religiously tried to refrain from commenting on a number of Court decisions that have been raised in these last couple of days.
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Senator Specter. Let me ask you a question articulated the way we ask jurors, whether you have any conscientious scruple against the imposition of the death penalty?
Judge Ginsburg. My own view on the death penalty I think is not relevant to any question I would be asked to decide as a judge.
So, let's review. Ginsburg, during the course of her hearings, for one reason or another, refused to answer questions about Second Amendment rights, homosexual rights, school vouchers, property rights, the death penalty, her personal views on anything, or upon any case or issue that might conceivably come before the court during her tenure.
I'll bet that Chuckie Schumer was looking out for us, though! I'll just bet he didn't let her slide by without answering those questions! I'll bet he demanded to see documents! I'll bet he placed a hold on her nomination! I'll bet he at least voted "No!"
Oh wait, nevermind. He voted yes with 95 other Senators.
Like I said, it's too easy.
Schumer is a bitter, ugly inquisitor, anything but funny. In case the American people missed him during the Waco hearings, they will get another chance and it will not be pretty. Schumer getting a lot of face time in this regard is a bonus for Republicans.
I thought that was Ted Kennedy's job to handle anything that has to do with water. He is the one with the most experience dating all the way back to Chappaquikdic.
Such as?
"I would like to ask Chuckie a few questions in front of the people in his state. I bet some of his real answers would stun even the New York libs."
Post them here, if you can, please.
To be blunt, the Pataki-D'Amato family (in the sense of Mafia family, not marriage) preffered Schumer to an outsider.
You are exactly right about the face time being a big plus for the conservatives/Republicans; that point goes equally for Teddy and certain others.
We should welcome the fact that these truly radical, FAR left a**holes will be "on display" for all to see and listen to. It should garner even more votes for the Republicans in '06 and '08!
Now, Clarence for Chief Justice and Janice for the vacancy he creates!!!
It is ironic that Schumer, who did not even take his law exam, will be questioning Judge Roberts about his record and philosophy.
Moe, Larry, and Curly were a lot smarter than Durbin, Kennedy, and Schumer!
MUST-HAVE reference to thwart Democrat confirmation obstructionism and hypocrisy of Roberts for SCOTUS! Quotes are from the original post and post 19, with my comments in (parentheses).
"...Schumer wasted no time letting everyone know that he was going to be the one to carry the water for the moonbats this go-round. What was particularly stunning to me was the audacity Schumer displayed in the tactic he is apparently going to use during the upcoming character assass... I mean, confirmation hearings. It appears that Schumer will attempt to beat Roberts around the head for refusing to answer questions....
(We need to expose DNC hypocrisy in their confirming) Ruth Bader Ginsburg, whose confirmation hearings were the gold-standard for question refusal in confirmation hearings....
...While Senator Biden had said that a nominee should decline to answer questions about how she would decide a specific case, which suggests that only prospective cases are off-limits, Justice Ginsburg declined to answer questions about her views on both prospective and many historical Supreme Court cases. She also declined to answer questions (or gave non-responsive answers to questions) involving a number of controversial issues, hypothetical facts, or areas in which she is not an expert...."
(Ginsberg was the Evil Queen of stealth anti-American SCOTUS judges, check out her devilish weasel sidestepping of every important question!)
(According to posts downthread, Schumer was not yet in the Senate during the hearings and vote for Ginsberg but the major point is still valid.)
"What Roberts needs to do is study every answer that Ruth Ginsburg gave as she avoided giving answers on controversial subjects, and do exactly the same thing when it comes his turn. He should use her words as exactly as possible without actually parroting her, and then the Pubs, when the Dems attack him for not answering, should pull out the Ginsburg responses and say, hey, these answers were fine when you voted Ginsburg through, and Roberts is answering no differently than Ginsburg did, so you have no room to argue in this instance." -- post 19 by FlagLady47
Again, what does Roberts have to gain by responding to anything? Which of these liberals is opoen minded at this point?
"I take the Ginsburg"
PERFECT!
An equally good response for an American to a Marxist-Democratic Senate tribunal (which is what Schumer has promised), as it was for Marxist Ginsberg to say in stonewalling an American Senate confirmation hearing.
One of the red flags-and this was raised by Frederick U. Dicker in an interview on WABC-was Schumer's insistence that any future Court nominee answer queries about how he might rule-in an hypothetical scenario-on the issue of gay "marriage."
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't both Chuckie and HRC on record as OPPOSING same-sex civil marriage?
If Schumer falls for GWB's trap, so much the better.
CONSIDER: Roberts clerked for Rehnquist ON THE SUPREME COURT. Roberts has *personally* worked with several of the current Supreme Court Justices. They know him *personally*.
IF, big if, IF the Dems assassinate Roberts' character; the strange inside-baseball politics of the 9 Supreme Court Justices themselves will come into play. In short, the entire SCOTUS will turn against any Dems engaging in false character attacks.
It's not as though those Justices can just be lied to about Roberts, you see. They *know* him personally. Character assasinations from others *DON'T WORK* against people you know personally. You know better.
When people lie to you about someone whom you *know*, you turn against those liars, not against the person you know. That's human nature.
So let Schumer and his ilk go to war against Roberts. It's their grave that they would be digging if they did that.
At this point, the Dems' have three options:
#1, go to war against Roberts (see above)
#2, Go along to get along (i.e. play to the Moderates for the next election cycle)
#3, reverse psychology (e.g. pretend to love the guy in order to cause the far Right to get jumpy)
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Red Foreman:
I can tell you one thing. This dumb-ass Charles Schumer wouldn't be elected in Point Place, Wisconsin.
Pfft! What a dumb-ass!
Chuck the Schmuck
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