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Muslim leaders issue fatwa on terrorists
The Age ^ | Reuters

Posted on 07/19/2005 2:09:51 PM PDT by F14 Pilot

Imams from about 500 British mosques have issued a fatwa condemning violence, which they have presented to politicians at Westminster, as ministers cast around for new laws to help stop a repeat of attacks on London.

The fatwa will be read out at mosques during prayers this Friday.

Officials say the government is looking to target extremists, particularly Islamic clerics, who glorify or encourage terrorist acts.

Such figures could be banned from entering Britain or deported if they are already in the country.

Prime Minister Tony Blair will meet British Muslim community leaders today to find ways of tackling the root causes of terrorism and preventing the message of extremists resonating.

"We all have to recognise where this perversion of Islam comes from,'' Blair's spokesman said. "We all have to stand together and deal with it. That includes the Muslim community.''

The government also wants to outlaw "acts preparatory to terrorism'', such as giving or receiving training for attacks.

Interior Minister Charles Clarke said he and his opposite numbers had agreed to publish legislation in October with a view to passing it into law by the year-end.

"We will cooperate with the government to ensure that the legislation . . . does the job it is set out to do and it is put on the Statute Book as quickly as possible,'' opposition Conservative home affairs spokesman David Davis told reporters.

Australia a 'bigger target'

Terrorists had Australia firmly in their sights long before 2003, but involvement in the Iraq conflict made it a much bigger target, Opposition foreign affairs spokesman Kevin Rudd has said.

Mr Rudd said that assessment had been reinforced by a Royal Institute of International Affairs report released in Britain which said the invasion of Iraq and ongoing occupation by allied troops had been a boon for al-Qaeda.

Al-Qaeda is suspected of being behind the July 7 London bombings, in which claimed 56 people died - including Melbourne man Sam Ly - and more than 700 were injured.

"Prior to the Iraq war there were factors which of course made Australia a terrorist target, that we were first and foremost a perceived western and Christian country, second that we had participated in the invasion of Afghanistan,'' Mr Rudd told ABC radio.

"But the third factor which turbocharged Australia as being a terrorist target by al-Qaeda and the al-Qaeda network has been our invasion of Iraq and participation in the coalition of the willing military operation.''

Al-Qaeda is suspected of being behind the July 7 London bombings, in which claimed 56 people died - including Melbourne man Sam Ly - and injured more than 700.

In Washington, Australian Prime Minister John Howard and US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld challenged any notion that a country could be made safer from terror by avoiding confrontation.

"No country can allow its foreign and defence policy to be malleable in the hands of terrorists," Mr Howard said.

'Pillion passenger'

The Blair government has angrily rejected the RIIA report, which says Britain created its own problems by playing "pillion passenger'' to Washington.

"The UK is at particular risk because it is the closest ally of the United States,'' said security experts Frank Gregory and Paul Wilkinson.

That provoked a strikingly robust rebuttal from Britain's foreign secretary, Jack Straw.

"The time for excuses for terrorism is over. The terrorists have struck across the world, in countries allied with the United States, backing the war in Iraq, and in countries which had nothing whatever to do with the war in Iraq,'' he said.


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1 posted on 07/19/2005 2:09:58 PM PDT by F14 Pilot
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To: F14 Pilot

So what's the actual text of the edict say?


2 posted on 07/19/2005 2:12:54 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Abortion kills liberals)
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To: F14 Pilot
Imams from about 500 British mosques have issued a fatwa condemning violence, which they have presented to politicians at Westminster...

Present it to the freaking TERRORISTS, not the freaking CHOIR!!!!!

3 posted on 07/19/2005 2:14:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws spawned the runaway federal health care monopoly and fund terrorism.)
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To: thoughtomator
Actual Text:

Oh we kill you oh terrorist! (not really, but we have to make this look good for the stupid english dhimmi's).

A pox on you!

4 posted on 07/19/2005 2:14:48 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: F14 Pilot
The Muslims in the UK should have STOPPED THIS ATTACK IN THE FIRST PLACE. Amazing how Muslims are always "Shocked" when a Muslim blows something up. It reminds me of the movie "Casablanca" when the Chief of Police entere Rick's Cafe and says "I'm shocked, shocked that gambling is happening here." (When he himself was gambling) No islam, know peace, no Muslims, know peace. Jeff
5 posted on 07/19/2005 2:16:18 PM PDT by mosquewatch.com
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To: F14 Pilot

One day I want to call one them Fatwa things. I think it's kind of like calling shotgun.


6 posted on 07/19/2005 2:17:38 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Do you actually believe that none of those in attendance are not supportive of the terrorists?
7 posted on 07/19/2005 2:18:10 PM PDT by Michael.SF. ("Rommel, you magnificent son of bitch.....I READ YOUR BOOK!! - Gen. Patton)
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To: F14 Pilot

There is some forward movement. Now with the just announced Turkey attack in Ankara, there should even be more impetus to move ahead. Of course Italy, Holland, and a few other European capitals may get a boom any day now.


8 posted on 07/19/2005 2:20:19 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: thoughtomator
Probably something like "we strongly disapprove of the actions taken by the terrorists. The bombings were not an effective means of communicating their grievances, and we would like to encourage the terrorists to be more tolerant of others, as well as more effective."
10 posted on 07/19/2005 2:21:36 PM PDT by atlaw
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To: thoughtomator
It reads:

"Any Muslim who, through his violent behavior, causes the UK government to to give me or any other imam a hard time with our immigration status is a sinner. I don't care if you kill a thousand infidels, it is not worth it if it gets me sent back to Pakistan. Have you any idea how bad the water closets are there, for starters? Seriously guys, in the name of Allah the most merciful, etc., etc., give us a bloody break. Imam out."

11 posted on 07/19/2005 2:22:35 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Marine_Uncle

And Canada!


12 posted on 07/19/2005 2:22:51 PM PDT by F14 Pilot (Democracy is a process not a product)
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To: mosquewatch.com

That's good, the Casablanca quote. The sooner the mainstream [new word] Moslems come right out and say the Terrorists are not only not good Moslems, but not Moslems at all, the sooner this insanity can be brought to an end.


13 posted on 07/19/2005 2:23:44 PM PDT by RightWhale (Substance is essentially the relationship of accidents to itself)
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To: F14 Pilot
Officials say the government is looking to target extremists, particularly Islamic clerics, who glorify or encourage terrorist acts. Such figures could be banned from entering Britain or deported if they are already in the country. The government also wants to outlaw "acts preparatory to terrorism'', such as giving or receiving training for attacks.

Interior Minister Charles Clarke said he and his opposite numbers had agreed to publish legislation in October with a view to passing it into law by the year-end.

"We will cooperate with the government to ensure that the legislation . . . does the job it is set out to do and it is put on the Statute Book as quickly as possible,'' opposition Conservative home affairs spokesman David Davis told reporters.

Time will tell if the British will actually pass and enforce this so called law!

14 posted on 07/19/2005 2:25:55 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: F14 Pilot

Shame they didn't put out a fatwa calling for Muslims to KILL Muslim terrorists. Then we might actually get somewhere, rather than the situation now, where the only thing changed is that some people's fears that all Muslims are terrorist-sympathizers have been mollified.


15 posted on 07/19/2005 2:26:37 PM PDT by The Grammarian
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To: thoughtomator
Why did it take almost 4 years to issue fatwa on terrorists? If any other Muslim leaders follow in other countries like Pakistan and Philippines follow, we might have something.
16 posted on 07/19/2005 2:28:47 PM PDT by mountainlyons (alienated vet)
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To: thoughtomator
So what's the actual text of the edict say?

English edict: We deplore and condemn all suicide bombers as acting against the tenets of Islam.

Arabic edict: Allah blesses all jihadi martyrs who spill the blood of the infidel.

17 posted on 07/19/2005 2:30:19 PM PDT by montag813
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To: The Grammarian
I find it hard to believe that this is sincere....if they were really against cold blooded murder they would have issued a fatwa against violence decades ago.
This was coerreced by PC pressure.
18 posted on 07/19/2005 2:30:59 PM PDT by DesignerChick
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To: F14 Pilot

As long as the very last mosque stands, the cutting edge of a knife is still pressed on our throats...


19 posted on 07/19/2005 2:33:07 PM PDT by JDoutrider
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To: F14 Pilot

Sounds great, but 5 million jihadis' and 20 years to late!


20 posted on 07/19/2005 2:36:41 PM PDT by Minutemen ("It's a Religion of Peace")
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