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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 8
Various News Outlets | 7/19/05

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:21:13 AM PDT by TexKat



TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; equusearch; joran; kalpoes; natalee; nataleeholloway; vandersloots
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To: spectre

I agree....and I think she thought she was getting in a taxi. Has there been anything said about where the Kalpoe car was parked? I might have to change my mind about the taxi scenario if they were parked in a parking lot or not right outside like the taxis were.....


581 posted on 07/20/2005 10:54:29 AM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: All

MSNBC Video - DNA Testing for Aruba suspects

'Scarborough Country' for July 19

SCARBOROUGH: Hey, welcome back to SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY.

Again, you are looking at exclusive NBC News video. You have got one of the Kalpoe brothers going into the hospital, being forced to surrender, forced to surrender their DNA by the district attorney of Aruba in a further investigation on this case.

Now, for more for this latest development, let‘s go live to Aruba and get the very latest on the case from NBC‘s Michelle Kosinski.

Michelle, what is the very latest?

MICHELLE KOSINSKI, NBC CORRESPONDENT: Well, NBC News has learned, for the first time in this investigation that has spanned seven weeks now, prosecutors have ordered that the three suspects submit a blood sample for DNA testing to be used in some way in this case.

Prosecutors haven‘t said why, but we expect to find that out soon. They will release their reason for why they want this testing done and why now in this case. So, we see Joran Van Der Sloot once again taken out of jail, led this time not to the beach where he says he left Natalee Holloway the morning she disappeared, but to the hospital to take that blood test.

We also saw the Kalpoe brothers. You are looking at video of Deepak - that‘s who we caught on tape—going to the hospital themselves and submitting of their own will. Remember, they are out of jail at this point, but they are still considered under suspicion. These are the young men who say they dropped off Natalee and Joran that morning on that beach.

We talked to Natalee Holloway‘s mother tonight, and she told us a couple things about this. Remember, at the same time this is going on, there are more FBI agents that flew to the island today. They met with her this afternoon. And FBI agents, as well as Dutch authorities, are now testing a piece of duct tape with hair attached to it. It was found in a remote area of a national park.

So, things are going on in this case, but Beth Holloway tells us it‘s so difficult for her to get her hopes up about any new findings or new developments because her hopes have been dashed so many times in the past.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BETH HOLLOWAY TWITTY, MOTHER OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: I think back to—we have been doing this, you know, for seven weeks now, and we have had so many—of course, everyone knows—but so many finds and things that we had to rule out or possibly, possibly, you know, sightings of Natalee.

And we just—of course, it‘s always giving you the encouragement that you are that much closer to, all of a sudden, the phone is going to ring and you are going to have the answer. You are going to know who is involved. You‘re going to locate Natalee. I feel like the answer will come—it could come just as quickly as it—as I got that phone call May 30 at 12:00 p.m. that she wasn‘t showing up for her flight. I mean, I feel like it could happen that quickly. And—but I just try to remain, you know, neutral.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KOSINSKI: Now, so many things seem to be happening at once right now at this moment, but are they connected? That, we will have to wait and see.

Again, we should know very soon, possibly tomorrow, what prosecutors‘ exact legal reason was for having these suspects submit their blood to be tested for DNA—Joe, back to you.

SCARBOROUGH: Do you have a sense—you sat down, obviously—we looked at that tape of Beth Holloway Twitty. Do you get a sense at this point that she believes, that the family believes that the tragedy has occurred, that Natalee has passed away, and now all they want to do is find her body, have closure on this case? Is that really what it‘s come down to now?

KOSINSKI: Well, they do talk about it in those terms, that they think something has happened. They feel, as do investigators, that a crime has been committed.

And they say, you know, when they see searchers looking at the bottoms of lakes and quarries, looking in caves, obviously, they know what those searchers are looking for. But they also say they do hold out some hope that she might be alive somewhere, just because, in all of this time that has passed, there has been no trace of any evidence anywhere on this island that could be positively identified as being connected to Natalee.

So, when we found this duct tape with the hairs on it, we are hearing all about this, yes, that looks like it might be something, but, once again, just because it‘s being tested doesn‘t mean that it will be connected. And it could as well end in frustration for this family.

SCARBOROUGH: All right, Michelle Kosinski, as always, thanks a lot for bringing us your report from Aruba tonight. We really do appreciate it.

Now let‘s bring in a member of Natalee‘s family, her aunt, Marcia Twitty.

You know, Marcia, this has been going on so long. Obviously, I remember the first name talking to you on a cell phone that was breaking up. It just seems like it goes on and on. I will ask you the same question.

I mean, we have got a quickening of evidence streaming in here, obviously, the boys being taken to the hospital, forced to deliver their DNA over to Aruban authorities, yesterday, blonde strands found on duct tape. Is the family now to a point where they believe that the tragedy has occurred, and they just want to find out what happened, and they just want closure on this case?

MARCIA TWITTY, AUNT OF NATALEE HOLLOWAY: You know, Joe, we want the truth. We so desperately want the truth, to find out what happened to Natalee.

And I will tell you, you know, our minds will kind of run the gamut. You know, you see all this stuff, but, at the same time, there is no concrete evidence that any of this belongs to Natalee. I mean, we don‘t have a sandal. We don‘t have a bracelet. We don‘t have anything, you know, that points toward Natalee.

So, all of these things just keep getting thrown at us, but yet we really don‘t have the answers.

SCARBOROUGH: What is the family‘s—what is Beth‘s—how are—how is Beth doing? How is Jug doing? I understand, of course, that Natalee‘s father spoke with Joran Van Der Sloot‘s father over the weekend. What is their state of mind right now?

M. TWITTY: You know, they are frustrated. You know, you can only imagine what Jug and Beth and Dave Holloway have been through consistently for seven weeks.

It‘s almost—even as close as I can get to it, it‘s almost unimaginable to what they are going through. You know, they are tired, they are frustrated. They want answers. You know, we just—we have just got to help find some truth for her. We really do.

SCARBOROUGH: No doubt about it.

Final question tonight.

M. TWITTY: Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: And I always ask this of you. What can we do to help?

M. TWITTY: You know, it‘s always keeping Jug and Beth and Dave and the family in everybody‘s thoughts and prayers.

And, again, you know, I keep saying it. And I have said it to you a lot of times. I think it‘s very important that we continue to put pressure on the government in Holland, the Dutch government, to intervene, and to be a part of that—that—what‘s going on in Aruba. We need—they need help down there.

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH: No doubt. They need to be part of the solution and not part of the problem.

M. TWITTY: Yes. Yes.

SCARBOROUGH: And, Marcia, so many of us—now, you all have been so diplomatic about this, but so many of us understand that the Dutch government has been the problem and not the solution, and that‘s why this tragedy has just played out as long as it has.

(CROSSTALK)

SCARBOROUGH: So, hey, Marcia, thanks a lot for being with us, a busy night for us, but we greatly appreciate you taking time to come out and tell us how the family is handling this tonight.

582 posted on 07/20/2005 10:54:45 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: El Gran Salseron
ROTFLMBO!!!

"Crosstalk" means there was more than one person talking at the same time. Therefore, transcriber couldn't transcribe it. Too many people talking at the same time.

Nothing sinister in the transcribing at all.

583 posted on 07/20/2005 10:56:17 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat

I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but didn't Natalee's mom once say that prior to her going to Aruba that Natalee had had highlights put in her hair? If so, perhaps that could be another clue if the hairs show some sort of chemical treatment.


584 posted on 07/20/2005 10:58:26 AM PDT by Carolinamom (NC motto: to be rather than to seem)
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To: spectre

It does not look like they are going to post a transcript of that part of Greta's show. They have the transcript of Sen. Lindsey Graham up. Darn, there was also something else I wanted to see on that transcript.


585 posted on 07/20/2005 10:59:47 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: golch1979
There's only one FBI agent down there. He gets paid whether he's working or not.

As long as he isn't working on another case, he trys. to work on the NH case. Although, said agents hands are tied in the investigation. Therefore, he does little work on this case.

586 posted on 07/20/2005 11:00:56 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: spectre
Oh..LOL...now I know who you are. Ms."stay on topic", no "chit chat allowed" herself!

Well, who is it?

587 posted on 07/20/2005 11:08:03 AM PDT by Krodg
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To: Carolinamom
I'm sorry if this has already been discussed, but didn't Natalee's mom once say that prior to her going to Aruba that Natalee had had highlights put in her hair? If so, perhaps that could be another clue if the hairs show some sort of chemical treatment.

Carolinamom I believe that there was some discussion on the last thread regarding this matter, however I don't recall Beth mentioning Natalee highlighting her hair, but thats not to say that Beth has not mentioned it.

588 posted on 07/20/2005 11:09:14 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

That's a great article about Greta. I'm glad to see her getting the credit she deserves. I read her blog every day, and find it fascinating to get an insider's view of how her program develops; how she overcomes the glitches; and the hunorous things that happen in her travels.

I was not a big Greta fan, but her log really humanizes her and someone who can be that open, warts and all, about herself and her work for FOX is a really fine person in my book.


589 posted on 07/20/2005 11:11:25 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; countryconservative; maggief; No Surrender No Retreat; ...
DNA Testing on Hair, Twitty Doesn’t Know Anything (VIDEO)
590 posted on 07/20/2005 11:14:01 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

Frances Ellen Byrd & the other girl,
have a difficult time to answer
questions. It's like their brains
are somewhere else. Ditzy girls.
IMO.

Frances said if she knew NH was
going to leave with joran, they
wouldn't have let her go.

What....did she mean by that? Frances
said she, nor the rest of the group,
knew joran. So why make a statement
they wouldn't have let NH go w/joran?


591 posted on 07/20/2005 11:17:56 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: the Deejay

..... because he was a stranger.


592 posted on 07/20/2005 11:19:08 AM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: the Deejay; golch1979
There's only one FBI agent down there.

FYI June 14, 2005 FoxNews:

Two FBI divers were sent to Aruba, but a source familiar with the investigation told FOX News they were sent back to the United States because no location had been pinpointed in the search for the teen.

One agent, a specialist in crime against children, observed police questioning of all five men who were brought in by authorities. Agents from the bureau's evidence-processing division and the squad that deals with incidents in the region as well as a witness coordinator were also on the island.

Link

593 posted on 07/20/2005 11:21:24 AM PDT by elli1
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To: TexKat

Please kindly remove me from all your Natalee thread ping lists.


594 posted on 07/20/2005 11:22:55 AM PDT by countryconservative (<<<<< original FR start date 9/21/01 <<<<<)
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To: Krodg

Check your FM..:)


595 posted on 07/20/2005 11:23:09 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: MAWG
Yeah, but they didn't know anything about joran. And in the beginning, they said NH & joran had been w/ each other a few days prior to May 30th.

Also, they did see them outside of C&C's and saw them getting into Deepak's car. So, they saw NH waiting w/joran while they were waiting for Deepak to pull his car up.

596 posted on 07/20/2005 11:23:15 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: countryconservative

Thank you for the time and effort you have spent trying to correct misinformation, which, in these high profile cases, often becomes legend after a few days or weeks.

I am one of those who is guilty sometimes of reporting from memory (faulty) what I have just seen and heard on a cable news show. I appreciate it when TIVO users come up with actual quotes.

I also appreciate the next-day transcripts, albeit they sometimes contain errors too.


597 posted on 07/20/2005 11:24:58 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: the Deejay

Yes, I know what "crosstalk" is. I'm not a dummy, as you seem to indicate. It still gives them an "out."

And I do find that transcripts are very often incorrect regardless of the "crosstalk" trump card.

ROFLMAOASTD


598 posted on 07/20/2005 11:26:13 AM PDT by El Gran Salseron ( The comments of this poster are meant for self-amusement only! Read at your own risk! :-))
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To: TexKat
Thanks TK.

I'm curious as well.

sw

599 posted on 07/20/2005 11:28:32 AM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: the Deejay

Frances Ellen is what we call an "unreliable source".

Why does anyone even bother interviewing Little Miss "I Crave My Fifteen Minutes"?


600 posted on 07/20/2005 11:29:12 AM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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