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Dead Boys Alive in Trunk for 17 Hours
FOXNews.com ^ | 7/19/2005 | Associated Press

Posted on 07/19/2005 9:34:10 AM PDT by AbeKrieger

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Villari told the newspaper that responsibility for the deaths is now "squarely on the shoulders of the police."

So the police are responsible for the behavior of these children and the lack of responsibility of the parents. This is a tragedy, not a crime, but I guess in Camden, someone's done gots to get paid.

1 posted on 07/19/2005 9:34:11 AM PDT by AbeKrieger
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To: AbeKrieger

Uh, since the police searched the car while the boys were alive in the trunk.

And the police missed them.

Don't you think they bear some responsibility?


2 posted on 07/19/2005 9:37:33 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: AbeKrieger

My thoughts exactly. Where the hell were the parents? Why wasn't the lock on the trunk of the inoperable car removed? Where were the parents? What were they thinking?


3 posted on 07/19/2005 9:37:42 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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There was a three hour search before the police were called. Why weren't the kids found?


4 posted on 07/19/2005 9:38:36 AM PDT by Sunshine Sister
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To: linkinpunk
Don't you think they bear some responsibility?

No, I do not think they do, and certainly no criminal or financial responsibility. This community always tries to blame the police for their shortcomings. This entire incident belongs squarely on the shoulders of poor (if existent at all) parenting. The person who left the trunk open or otherwise accessible to children - their fault 100%.

5 posted on 07/19/2005 9:42:02 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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I agree.....parents are responsible

1. Had the kids played in this trunk before? I am sure they had..the car looked like it had been there awhile

2. I read somewhere that the 11 year old was mentally handicapped...why wasn't a parent outside with him and the young ones on the porch keeping and ear out?
6 posted on 07/19/2005 9:42:29 AM PDT by PaulaB
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To: AbeKrieger

How tragic, the police really should have looked in that car.. But missing something in a seach does not make them responable for not supervising the kids, and to be fair how many of us have our eyes on an 11 year old all the time?


7 posted on 07/19/2005 9:43:10 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: AbeKrieger
I still have questions about how these kids could have gotten into the trunk of that car? Is the owner of the car somehow liable? Shouldn't someone have towed the inoperable car?

And why didn't anyone hear the boys inside?

8 posted on 07/19/2005 9:43:19 AM PDT by RushCrush (Hubba hubba hubba, Dooba Dooba Dooba!)
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To: Sunshine Sister

I don't know the year model of the car but did it have an inside trunk release handle? One of those boys was 11 and I've seen some very resourceful 11 year olds, something doesn't seem plausible. How 'bout kicking the back seat in, at least to get a little more air? An 11 year old can cause lots of damage to some of those panels, make lots of noise too. Many unanswered questions.


9 posted on 07/19/2005 9:44:17 AM PDT by brushcop (We lift up Pvt. Johnny Chrzenowski in prayer, recovering from burns received in an RPG ambush, Iraq.)
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To: AbeKrieger

"...the father of one of the boys found them dead in the trunk of an inoperable car sitting just feet from where they had been playing."


Surely everyone (including the police) were within a few feet of this car...especially during the start of the searching. Were these kids not kicking and screaming inside the trunk, off and on, for at least two or three hours? I would think the average 3-4 year old (and these kids were a little older, weren't they?) would be making a heck of a racket to get out!


10 posted on 07/19/2005 9:44:17 AM PDT by Maria S
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To: linkinpunk
Whereas the Police may want to review their search policy, the fault lies with whoever didn't make SURE that children could not lock themselves in the trunk.

A horrible tragedy, and I can't imagine what the parents must be going through. However, that the first reaction to this horror is to sue the police...

Two words: Litigation Lottery.
11 posted on 07/19/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT by thoolou (Politics--The last refuge of the nincompoop. - Berke Breathed)
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The police bear A LOT of responsibility for this negligence.

And they WILL pay.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by linkinpunk
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To: Maria S

The police were not called until 3 hours after the boys went missing.


13 posted on 07/19/2005 9:46:36 AM PDT by cjshapi
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What about the stories of the plastic bag over one kids head and the cement bag over them. I just dont se how they could search right there and the kids did not make nay noise.


14 posted on 07/19/2005 9:47:39 AM PDT by winodog (We need to pull the fedgov.con's feeding tube)
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To: AbeKrieger; linkinpunk
I wouldn't say it was squarely on the shoulders of the police, but they did manage to search the car without checking the trunk.  Hey, let's keep in mind these aren't cops, they're CAMDEN cops.  The absolute worst of the worst.  Guys who could never get a job anywhere else in the state end up in Camden.  Being a Bridge Cop would be better than being a Camden cop.
 
That being said, since the parents are on record as saying the kids had played/hid in the trunk before, how much intelligence would it take for you to think of checking there yourself?
 
A moron menagerie if there ever was one.
 
Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

15 posted on 07/19/2005 9:48:08 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Maria S
Surely everyone (including the police) were within a few feet of this car...especially during the start of the searching. Were these kids not kicking and screaming inside the trunk, off and on, for at least two or three hours?

They might have passed out but still been alive.

16 posted on 07/19/2005 9:49:03 AM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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This is a tragedy, not a crime, but I guess in Camden, someone's done gots to get paid.

There is some question as to whether or not the police could have been more thorough in the initial search of the vehicle but I agree that the parents bear the responsibility for their children.

By the way, that's cute the way you put the parents in their place and at the same time made fun of the way some people in Camden talk. Give yourself two pats on the back. Nicely done.

17 posted on 07/19/2005 9:49:45 AM PDT by new cruelty
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No, the tax payers will "pay" is what you mean.


18 posted on 07/19/2005 9:51:20 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: AbeKrieger

It didn't occur to the idiot parents to check the trunk?
If the children were playing within feet of the car before they disappeared wouldn't that be one of the first places a normal person would look?
Trying to make a few bucks off this tragedy is what they're doing. People who don't take responsibility for their own stupidity make me sick!
My kids wouldn't be missing for three hours before I called for help!


19 posted on 07/19/2005 9:51:43 AM PDT by derllak
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"This is a tragedy,not a crime."I agree 100%.What am i missing here?Are car trunks soundproof?I assume someone must have at least taken a cursory look thru the vehicle.Openend doors,looked under the car,but no sounds from 3 boys supposedly still alive inside?That's odd.Of course there will be no shortage of plantiff's attorneys beating down the parent's doors.


20 posted on 07/19/2005 9:52:11 AM PDT by Thombo2
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