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AP: William Westmoreland dead
Associated Press | July 18, 2005

Posted on 07/18/2005 7:57:49 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War

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TOPICS: Announcements; Breaking News; Extended News
KEYWORDS: ap; koreanwarvet; obituary; rip; veteran; vietnamveteran; westmoreland; ww2vet; wwiivet
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To: COEXERJ145
Until old Walter's "We've lost the war" speech, most Americans supported the war and had the will to win it.

Most Americans supported the war right up till the end in 73. Keep in mind, Tet, when Uncle Walter joined forces with Uncle Ho, was in the Spring of 68. Four years later, despite an all out media blitz in the news rooms, on TV, in Hollywood, in the recording studios, and in the salons of so-called "opinion makers" the pro-victory candidate for president defeated the "cut and run" candidate by the largest electorial margin in history. Nixon carried 49 of 50 states in 1972 and had 60%+ of the popular vote over the anti-war McGovern.

Don't buy the crap that America turned against the war. That is pure revisionist history.

181 posted on 07/19/2005 5:12:57 AM PDT by Ditto ( No trees were killed in sending this message, but billions of electrons were inconvenienced.)
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To: zencat

"but we showed the commie pricks that we were willing to fight them anytime and anywhere on the earth, to serve the cause of freedom."

That message was not lost on the likes of Castro and Danny Ortega. They talked their trash about Vietnam. But, when push came to shove (in Grenada, Honduras, El Salvador, etc.), they were not willing to pay the price that we set and collected from the North Vietnamese.


182 posted on 07/19/2005 5:21:21 AM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: zarf

"Tell them what it was for."

How about: No more Soviet Union and East Germany. No more Warsaw Pact. Daniel Ortega and his pretty red scarf are not running the show anymore in Nicaragua. What is Fidel up to these days? The 10+ year holding-action in Southeast Asia contributed to all of this. Vietnam can be analogized to the Battle of Bunker Hill. We did not hold the field at the end of that day in 1775, but we extracted a price in blood that the enemy, Communism, was unwilling to keep paying and it postured us for a larger victory. That is a legacy to be proud of.


183 posted on 07/19/2005 5:34:49 AM PDT by Airborne1986 (Well, you can do what you want to us. But we're not going to sit here while you badmouth the U.S.A.)
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To: zarf
"I have to disagree. The Vietnam war was originally an extension of French colonialism. We, tragically became French proxys and extended this mistake of history."

I think we confuse the idea of whether or not we should have been there with whether or not the US Government really wanted to win.

Poor execution and politics doesn't rule out the need to have executed the war.
184 posted on 07/19/2005 5:36:58 AM PDT by Preachin' (Georgia finally saw the light in 2000.)
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To: zarf
This will make you angry.

They're roughing up the corpse over at DU.

185 posted on 07/19/2005 5:45:02 AM PDT by freedomson (Tagline comment removed by moderator)
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To: naturalman1975

Thanks for that perspective.


186 posted on 07/19/2005 6:02:38 AM PDT by wallcrawlr (http://www.bionicear.com)
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To: Dont Mention the War

R.I.P., our Leader.

I salute you with the deepest respect.


187 posted on 07/19/2005 6:05:08 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: freedomson

Interesting how those idiots bash Westy and put no blame for the debacle in Vietnam on one of their greatest heroes, LBJ.


188 posted on 07/19/2005 6:07:21 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Da Mav

Ultimately South Vietnam fell.

2 years after

all combat troops were withdrawn by Jan, '73.......

commies "took" Saigon in Apr, '75.


189 posted on 07/19/2005 6:11:52 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: zarf

"56,000 dead. For nothing."

Hopefully, you did not mean that.

You label answering the call of our nation “nothing”? It is abundantly clear that these patriots not only answered the nations call, but made the ultimate sacrifice in doing so.

I find this remark very insulting to the many of us that are Viet Nam veterans.

It is suggested that you retract that statement.


190 posted on 07/19/2005 6:18:16 AM PDT by FMBass (“Now that I’m sober I watch a lot of news” – Garofalo: From “Treason” by Coulter)
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To: Ditto; Richard Poe; Alamo-Girl; risk; Boston; reformjoy; conservogirl; PhilDragoo; kristinn; ...


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The last Major Battle of the Vietnam War:

WATERGATE =

No NIXON to kick around any more.

No NIXON around to carry a B-52 big stick over our Communist Terrorist Enemy North Vietnam.

No NIXON around to protect the Freedom of others in a then Free South Vietnam.

No NIXON around to repel $6 Billion in Soviet Aid to Communist North Vietnam for its Final Solution in the South.

No NIXON around to prevent this:

Pictures of a vietnamese Re-Education Camp

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1308949/posts








WALTER CRONKITE:

Personally stopped a sitting Commander-in-Chief in time of war, President LBJ, from running for a 2nd Term.

Personally proclaimed that all our Southern States should secede from our Union at a World Conference in London in the year 2000.

Personally protects Presidential Candidate HILLARY in the Media, just like he protected our Communist Terrorist Enemy HO CHI MINH against us and Freedom during the Vietnam War.

Danger, WILL ROBINSON, Danger.

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191 posted on 07/19/2005 6:24:42 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: naturalman1975
Sir...

I read you post with great interest.

Your observations were straight on as once more over the horizon looms a gathering menace. When one reads of history it is best they have in front of them a world map to view. It simplifies with a picture in your mind of what one is reading.

From Japan to Australia, China is slowly but surely clearing and or trying to neutralize its rear area. The only glue that is keeping that line of free countries together is the United States. Will we fight once more to keep those countries free??????

Yes we will, and it will not be in vain.

192 posted on 07/19/2005 6:27:45 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: FMBass

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VAN TRAN =

1st Vietnamese American State Legislator in U.S. History

http://republican.assembly.ca.gov/members/index.asp?Dist=68&Lang=1&Body=&ReflD=&WelcomlD=

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193 posted on 07/19/2005 6:28:26 AM PDT by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Gondring

" Ah yes... the Treaty of Paris, thr negotiated peace that indicated Great Britain did not lose the American Revolution."

Sorry I should have been more specific, don't assume anything.
I was refering to the Paris Peace Accord 1973.

Sorry.


194 posted on 07/19/2005 6:38:34 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: Dont Mention the War

A man who was given a war and then prevented from winning it. I salute you, sir, and was honored to serve in your command.


195 posted on 07/19/2005 6:43:45 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Liberals preach comity and practice calumny.)
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To: zarf; Darksheare
We should not have been there in the first place.

I think you picked the wrong place to say THAT!

196 posted on 07/19/2005 6:46:24 AM PDT by StarCMC (Old Sarge is my hero...doing it right in Iraq! Vaya con Dios, Sarge.)
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To: Ingtar

How did we lose in Bosnia? We stopped the civil war there, and that was our war aim.


197 posted on 07/19/2005 6:50:38 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (Proudly confusing editors and readers since 1981!)
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To: BraveMan; All

The Guest Book for General Westmoreland is at

http://www.legacy.com/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonId=14591630


198 posted on 07/19/2005 6:55:35 AM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Dane

Dan Rather will be judged as the most inaccurate, biased lame brain reporter in American history.


199 posted on 07/19/2005 6:57:25 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: zarf

Umm.. I think the refugees from Vietnam would disagree.


200 posted on 07/19/2005 6:58:18 AM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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