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Phoenix Bishop says "No Sunday Shopping" - A Wedge Issue in the Culture Wars
LifeSiteNews.com,, Arizona Republic ^ | 07/18/05

Posted on 07/18/2005 2:55:09 PM PDT by Heartofsong83

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To: Bigg Red
I agree wholeheartedly. Even for people who have no religious affiliations, there should be one day set aside when we're not chasing the buck. I always complain to the management of any retail store if I see a notice that they plan to be open on Christmas, Thanksgiving, etc.

If you force businesses to close those employees are out of the double or triple overtime they get paid to work holidays IF THEY CHOOSE. Why not let individuals and businesses make own decisions?

21 posted on 07/18/2005 3:14:17 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: ncountylee
I think that people should not be forced to shop on Sundays. What? They aren't now?

I have no idea what your post means or how it relates to my prior comment.
22 posted on 07/18/2005 3:14:32 PM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: Heartofsong83
It's long been my understanding that the Catholic Church doesn't have the Puritan blue-law mentality, any more than it is against drinking or gambling.

Of course, they use the wrong day of the week, but we'll have to agree to disagree about that.

23 posted on 07/18/2005 3:14:55 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Qanno' qinne'ti leHaShem 'Eloqei Tzevaqot . . . va'ivvater 'ani levaddi . . . ")
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To: Heartofsong83

I agree. I manage a shop that is closed on Sunday, although we are up against a large discount chain that is open every day and for longer hours. We are blessed as it is and am grateful to God for watching over us.


24 posted on 07/18/2005 3:16:29 PM PDT by skr (Almighty God, thank you for the liberty you have bestowed upon this nation.)
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To: Heartofsong83
I am strongly opposed to Sunday retail personally and believe business will be just as efficient in 6 days and 6 nights. Let's have a day of rest, religion and prayer.

It isn’t the end of the world. The town I grew up in was part of a “dry” county and the city wouldn’t allow any tobacco products be sold within the city limits.

They had “blue laws” and you couldn’t buy anything other than “non-prepared” foods on Sunday. That meant you could buy hamburger meat or chicken or a bag of rice, but you couldn’t buy KFC or Pizza Hut or tennis shoes or gasoline or anything other than non-prepared food.

No cigarettes or beer/booze within the city/county line under any circumstances - Sunday or not. Somehow we survived. It wasn’t the end of the world.

25 posted on 07/18/2005 3:16:50 PM PDT by Who dat?
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To: Heartofsong83

My dad used to say he remembered stores used to be closed on Sunday in his day.
Since I am LDS (Mormon) we are strongly encouraged to keep the Sabbath holy and not to spend money. There is even a children's song about preparing on Saturday for the Sabbath, so we don't have to work again until Monday.


26 posted on 07/18/2005 3:20:20 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Veronica Mars

Shopping or not should be left to the individual. OK?


27 posted on 07/18/2005 3:21:57 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: Heartofsong83
There's a difference between stopping business to cover 85% of the population and stopping to cover 5%.

If we're going to go by "majority rules", would you support taking a vote on Sunday openings? Or why don't we save the taxpayers a bundle and just say "each individual follows his own conscience"?

28 posted on 07/18/2005 3:22:25 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Veronica Mars

It used to be that Jewish shop owners closed their stores for their religious days as well.


29 posted on 07/18/2005 3:24:27 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: ncountylee
I think that people should not be forced to shop on Sundays. What? They aren't now?

Exactly!

If you're opposed to shopping on Sunday, then don't shop on Sunday. If you're a retailer, and you're opposed to operating on Sunday (such as the Chick-Fil-A chain), then feel free not to. If you think you'll go to Hell for cutting your grass on Sunday, then I heartily approve of you not cutting your grass on Sunday. And, if like Joe Lieberman, you believe you shouldn't drive a car on Saturday, then by all means don't.

But don't you dare tell me when I am permitted to engage in such pursuits.

30 posted on 07/18/2005 3:24:32 PM PDT by southernnorthcarolina (I support tax cuts for the rich -- and I vote!)
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To: Heartofsong83
I know it will likely be a split decision here.

A split? Here? Nawww... :)

Let's have a day of rest, religion and prayer.

What is stopping you? No, really! What? There is no law or directive compelling you or anyone else to do anything on Sunday you do not wish to do.

If you desire, or are required by your belief to stay at home, or spend the day in prayer, or keep it strictly for family, please, do so.

Just do it without telling others that they have to do the same as you, and do not restrict the activities of others because the do not hold sacred the same day or not to the same level.

Before you answer, consider that we also play host to religions that hold Saturday as the Day Of Rest and if there is reason for restrictions of activities on Sunday, those reasons apply also to Saturday or any other day deemed 'Holy'.

31 posted on 07/18/2005 3:24:39 PM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: ncountylee
Shopping or not should be left to the individual. OK?

No argument here. Maybe you should re-read my original post and look for the blatant sarcasm. I thought advocating closing stores for the Winter Solstice was so absurd that it would be apparent I wasn't serious.

I think we're on the same side of the argument pal.
32 posted on 07/18/2005 3:25:34 PM PDT by Veronica Mars
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To: Judge Roy

There's a commandment to that effect.

If you don't want to shop on Sunday, don't. Expecting stores to close because of your religion is wrong.


33 posted on 07/18/2005 3:28:55 PM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: Heartofsong83

Country lost moralality when it forewent church to make a buck.
Obviously we need to get some of the morality back.


34 posted on 07/18/2005 3:29:32 PM PDT by Joe Boucher (An enemy of Islam)
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To: HungarianGypsy

The Sabbath begins Friday at sundown and ends Saturday at sundown. That has never changed, and never will.

Please don't refer to Sunday as the Sabbath because it is not the Sabbath.


35 posted on 07/18/2005 3:31:36 PM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: Nathan Zachary
It used to be that Jewish shop owners closed their stores for their religious days as well.

We still have one like that here in Columbus. Two actually, stores called "Schotenstien's". They are a low cost bargain outlet and observant of Jewish religious holidays.

Their choice, no laws involved, and without trying to be snarky just a little hypocritical. The Saturday closures are set aside for the Christmas season.

36 posted on 07/18/2005 3:34:37 PM PDT by kAcknor (Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Of course, they use the wrong day of the week, but we'll have to agree to disagree about that.

At least some others around here acknowledge that.
37 posted on 07/18/2005 3:34:40 PM PDT by thompsonsjkc
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To: thompsonsjkc

Well, this is the dictionary definition of Sabbath:

Sab·bath ( P ) Pronunciation Key (sbth)
n.
The seventh day of the week, Saturday, observed as the day of rest and worship by the Jews and some Christian sects.
The first day of the week, Sunday, observed as the day of rest and worship by most Christians.

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38 posted on 07/18/2005 3:34:45 PM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: Heartofsong83

later pingout.


39 posted on 07/18/2005 3:35:19 PM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: thompsonsjkc
Of course, they use the wrong day of the week, but we'll have to agree to disagree about that.

At least some others around here acknowledge that.

A lot of people read their Bibles backwards.

40 posted on 07/18/2005 3:37:36 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator ("Qanno' qinne'ti leHaShem 'Eloqei Tzevaqot . . . va'ivvater 'ani levaddi . . . ")
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