Posted on 07/18/2005 10:25:14 AM PDT by 45Auto
I mentioned that in an Education class once -- "Ebonics is not a language." BOY, you should've seen the heads swivel. hahah. If looks could kill.
Oh, I know, they could study Ebonics and then they could get jobs as ????? I know, translators. For books and documents, UN stuff, journals. That'll give the students a LIFE. Which the sociologist needs, too, imho.
In a way I hate to say it, but there is one black organization in Oakland, CA, that does exactly the kind of economic help that you speak of - it is the Nation of Islam. They have helped set up a number of small businesses including a very successful bakery. The Nation of Islam is many things, but it is not an organization that encourages disrespectful behavior either of oneself or others. It does have a nasty reputation of racism towards whites. however. Still, I can accept that sort of thing as long as its right up front. That's the thing about Farrakhan - he doesn't try to fool anyone about his position.
It all pays the same.
LOL! I'm in the $% fon boof!
this is beyond stupid.
"It takes hard work, not a handout from the government, and many blacks never make the connection."
And until that changes, all the programs in the world won't make a difference. The question, then, is why is this the case? Is this a result of the "victimhood" culture? Something else? Do the blacks for whom this statement is true simply not want to make the connection (i.e. is it a case of wilful ignorance)?
The teachers unions should be utterly destroyed. Tenure should be done away with; teachers should have to demonstrate top level performance reflected in the product (i.e. the graduates) that they produce. Pay for excellence, just like in every other business and industry in the country(except for government). And the federal government needs to get the hell out of education - the Dept of Ed does nothing but set up financial incentives for school districts that guarantee failure. The Federal Department of Education is the Guardian of Failure.
You are correct. Even tho I could never support Farakhan, I have supported Nation of Islam businesses for the very reasons of which you speak.
That is an excellent idea.
I teach in an inner-city school in Indianapolis. The black students at my school speak "street" all the time, but they also speak correctly, and on average they are achieving better grades than white students at the moment. It only kills me when the TEACHERS say things like "I done PEEPED yo' game" when they're trying to say that they know that a student was trying to get away with something. I feel so sorry for those kids who are being treated like they are totally incapable.
I used to teach in the Inland Empire before I moved to Indy. The big difference between schools here and schools there? If I send a kid to the office HERE, he is suspended or worse. The problem is immediately taken care of. If I sent a kid to the office THERE, he was "counseled." You can't teach ill-behaved Bratleys, no matter what "language" you speak to them in.
You forgot "it bees." As in, "it bees day way."
Oops, should have been:
"it bees DAT way."
"And if a student there really tried to learn something:"
That is really sick of them. I firmly beleive that some liberals want to keep people stupid and dependent on govt services. Much as a heroin pusher keeps his customers dependent on him.
Calling Bill Cosby come in Bill Cosby Moonbat ALERT
This should help these students get ahead. When the students who were taught in ebonics graduate and cannot find a fulfilling job they'll sue.
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I disagree Michael. I've spent a lot of time in ed classes. Mine have been fairly conservative but they do emphasize compassion and understanding a great deal. I think this is less laziness than a bunch of "compassionate" nitwits wanting to be approved of by black leaders in their community, or wish not to appear racist.
I won't say the women I have been in school with are brilliant. But I can say that the vast majority have HUGE hearts. Without exception, they do, genuinely, want to do good for children. Sadly, quite a few are willing to do anything that some expert says is best. They lack the maturity and experience to judge it for themselves.
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