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Not Getting It. The Left suddenly thinks it’s the minority on campus.
NRO ^ | July 18, 2005, 8:12 a.m. | By Jason Mattera

Posted on 07/18/2005 5:33:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM

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>>>>It’s not the lack of resources, but the tactics used and ideas professed that cause student apathy toward progressive activism.

As a counterpoint, what should conservatives now do to take advantage of this situation?

1 posted on 07/18/2005 5:33:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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To: .cnI redruM
Our enemy is destroying himself. Don't help him.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 07/18/2005 5:36:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: .cnI redruM
I still think the academy is lost. I see no way to expose it to true competition, due to the presence of so much government money that virtually eliminates cost competition.

People want to blame tenure. That's dumb. I can do without tenure, but that isn't what's causing the drift. As Richard Vetter shows in "Going Broke by Degree," the problem is that 60% or MORE of college students now are on some sort of "aid" which is really just redistribution of the entire pool of money. So students pay (in reality) $17,000, get "rebates" or aid of $7-10,000, and think they are getting a deal, when in reality the education only COSTS $7,000, and if you got rid of all the administrative departments that are engaged in a) recruitment and b) redistribution, you'd HAVE a college ed. for $7,000-10,000, i.e., one that is affordable to almost any students.

3 posted on 07/18/2005 5:37:52 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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Moderator and former Clinton White House Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers asked a panel to define progressive values

The lefts values are whatever their internal polling TELLS them they should be.

4 posted on 07/18/2005 5:41:40 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: .cnI redruM

Start referring to the university-employed leftists as the "leftwing establishment" and the lefty students as the mind-numbed stooges of the leftwing establishment.


5 posted on 07/18/2005 5:43:03 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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To: LS

and if you got rid of all the administrative departments that are engaged in a) recruitment and b) redistribution,

Don't forget the cost of diversification. Diversification is the goal of every college president, not excellence!


6 posted on 07/18/2005 5:47:38 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Seeking the truth here folks.)
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Aid is such a misnomer. I have a friend who just got done w/ Med. School and owes $300K. He's paying over $20K/year just to tread water.

He'd better be the next Charles Emerson Winchester. The aid problem may solve itself, as more and more talented people decide the benefits of a college degree in no way justify the cost.
7 posted on 07/18/2005 5:48:09 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Something must be done, even if it doesn't work," Bob Geldof)
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To: .cnI redruM

My son will be a college freshman this fall, majoring in theater. At orientation, the first club he sought out and joined was the Young Republicans.


8 posted on 07/18/2005 5:49:02 AM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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To: Kenton
That's already happened. Even The New Republic has written on the intellectual petrification of The Left. They'll survive for many years in their own echo chamber.
9 posted on 07/18/2005 5:49:47 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Something must be done, even if it doesn't work," Bob Geldof)
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To: Kenton
Mind-numbed stooges?


10 posted on 07/18/2005 5:51:04 AM PDT by NRA1995 (West Virginia needs neurosurgeons like San Francisco needs gynecologists)
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To: .cnI redruM

Students should record every word spoken by every professor they encounter in person or in lecture.


11 posted on 07/18/2005 5:53:44 AM PDT by PGalt
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That could be amusing. Especially if it were played over the radio somewhere or got on TV.
12 posted on 07/18/2005 5:54:27 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Something must be done, even if it doesn't work," Bob Geldof)
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Universities are the zoos where we keep our liberals. It's for their own good; most of them can't survive in the wild.

As for this: “Cain said, ‘am I my brother’s keeper?’ ‘You bet your ass,’ God said.”

I gather he's not using the King James version?

13 posted on 07/18/2005 5:57:36 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: A_perfect_lady
That would be the King Jimbo version.
14 posted on 07/18/2005 6:01:47 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("Something must be done, even if it doesn't work," Bob Geldof)
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To: LS
you'd HAVE a college ed. for $7,000-10,000, i.e., one that is affordable to almost any students.

I went to a private college that currently charges $36,000 for tuition, room and board. This is a college that produces more future PhDs per capita than all but two other colleges in the country. In my humble opinion, the expense is worth it because of the extraordinary opportunity for learning that exists at a college with a traditional great-books curriculum and a serious, intellectual culture. And it happens that at least half the students at this college have financial aid, often lots of it (I certainly did in my day).

However -- you can get a decent education for < $4,000 a year (tuition) where I hold tenure as an associate professor of math, a regional campus of a well-known public university. You're on your own to seek out the degree programs with real content and substance (we offer plenty of content-free fluff degrees such as the dreaded "bachelors in general studies" that hundreds of our students opt for). But we do have quality programs taught by professors who love learning and teaching.

15 posted on 07/18/2005 6:03:37 AM PDT by megatherium
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Coservatives should laugh loud, long and publicly.
If one really thinks about what has been happening on our nations campuses for 37 years, one knows that our halls of liberal academe asre nothing if not "utopian." The world they year forn does not exist and never will.

These academics are not teaching learners. They are teaching "YEARNERS". They do such a good job of indoctriantion that our nations culture wars are too energetic, and may one day lead to our nations second civil war.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 6:06:13 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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To: .cnI redruM

Or posted on FreeRepublic.


17 posted on 07/18/2005 6:06:30 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: .cnI redruM

Evidence. Sue the professor for non-performance.


18 posted on 07/18/2005 6:08:38 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: NRA1995
B - A - Bay
B - E - Bee
B - I - Bicky By
B - O - Bo ...

Hey, it's about as relevant as the leftwing indoctrination garbage that passes for higher education these days!!

Bring on Professors Howard, Fine, and Howard!

19 posted on 07/18/2005 6:10:22 AM PDT by bassmaner (Let's take the word "liberal" back from the commies!!)
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To: PeterPrinciple

Yep. Our deans have grown threefold in 20 years, and the number of provosts---one specifically dedicated to "student needs" has gone up fivefold.


20 posted on 07/18/2005 6:21:25 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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