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>>>>It’s not the lack of resources, but the tactics used and ideas professed that cause student apathy toward progressive activism.

As a counterpoint, what should conservatives now do to take advantage of this situation?

1 posted on 07/18/2005 5:33:24 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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Our enemy is destroying himself. Don't help him.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
2 posted on 07/18/2005 5:36:01 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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I still think the academy is lost. I see no way to expose it to true competition, due to the presence of so much government money that virtually eliminates cost competition.

People want to blame tenure. That's dumb. I can do without tenure, but that isn't what's causing the drift. As Richard Vetter shows in "Going Broke by Degree," the problem is that 60% or MORE of college students now are on some sort of "aid" which is really just redistribution of the entire pool of money. So students pay (in reality) $17,000, get "rebates" or aid of $7-10,000, and think they are getting a deal, when in reality the education only COSTS $7,000, and if you got rid of all the administrative departments that are engaged in a) recruitment and b) redistribution, you'd HAVE a college ed. for $7,000-10,000, i.e., one that is affordable to almost any students.

3 posted on 07/18/2005 5:37:52 AM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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Moderator and former Clinton White House Press Secretary Dee Dee Myers asked a panel to define progressive values

The lefts values are whatever their internal polling TELLS them they should be.

4 posted on 07/18/2005 5:41:40 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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Start referring to the university-employed leftists as the "leftwing establishment" and the lefty students as the mind-numbed stooges of the leftwing establishment.


5 posted on 07/18/2005 5:43:03 AM PDT by Kenton ("Life is tough, and it's really tough when you're stupid" - Damon Runyon)
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My son will be a college freshman this fall, majoring in theater. At orientation, the first club he sought out and joined was the Young Republicans.


8 posted on 07/18/2005 5:49:02 AM PDT by Buck W. (Yesterday's Intelligentsia are today's Irrelevantsia.)
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Students should record every word spoken by every professor they encounter in person or in lecture.


11 posted on 07/18/2005 5:53:44 AM PDT by PGalt
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Universities are the zoos where we keep our liberals. It's for their own good; most of them can't survive in the wild.

As for this: “Cain said, ‘am I my brother’s keeper?’ ‘You bet your ass,’ God said.”

I gather he's not using the King James version?

13 posted on 07/18/2005 5:57:36 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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Coservatives should laugh loud, long and publicly.
If one really thinks about what has been happening on our nations campuses for 37 years, one knows that our halls of liberal academe asre nothing if not "utopian." The world they year forn does not exist and never will.

These academics are not teaching learners. They are teaching "YEARNERS". They do such a good job of indoctriantion that our nations culture wars are too energetic, and may one day lead to our nations second civil war.


16 posted on 07/18/2005 6:06:13 AM PDT by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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The left is actually starting to realize that shrill juvenile chants and sophomoric behavior don't win in the long run. If they actually learn to be civilized, they might find a more receptive broader audience. Let's hope Begala and company fail in their efforts to spread the Democrat talking points on campus.


23 posted on 07/18/2005 6:23:18 AM PDT by DuckFan4ever (Liberals lie)
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Campuses need more leaders like Harvard's Larry Summers. He has gone out on a limb challenging various far-left precepts: women in the sciences, black scholarship and Israel divesture. For taking these stands, the faculty voted no confidence. But Summers is still president.

Conservatives need to be encouraged to run for their college's board of trustees. The board doesn't call all the shots, but it can foster leadership that promotes true academic freedom.


25 posted on 07/18/2005 6:23:40 AM PDT by cloud8
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The left already holds the media, academia, and most of the cultural institutions in the Western world. They are the establishment. I think many young people are intelligent enough to realise if they become "activists", they're not "fighting against the machine", they're becoming its court jesters.

The Right are the true rebels. To demand independence rather than catering to dependence is the truly revolutionary ideal.

Regards, Ivan


26 posted on 07/18/2005 6:24:02 AM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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"They are not our base — the white married couples who moved away from the cities to get away from minorities and smog."

Sorry to be the one to break it to this guy, but there's a lot of minorities, married and otherwise, moving away from the cities to get away from minorities too.

29 posted on 07/18/2005 6:32:56 AM PDT by libs_kma (USA: The land of the Free....Because of the Brave!)
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"As for this: “Cain said, ‘am I my brother’s keeper?’ ‘You bet your ass,’ God said.”

What a dope! These goons are waking up now to the "Christian card", but they haven't an idea whatsoever what this means...


30 posted on 07/18/2005 6:36:49 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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The names of these Goebelites of the 'Hate-the-United States' crowd should be identified over and over again. Paint them with the brush that they deserve!


31 posted on 07/18/2005 6:44:50 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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We could bring an end to liberalism/socialism on college campus's just by making it a required credit to visit Cuba, and I don't mean the tourist trap part of the island I mean where and how the average Cuban lives.
32 posted on 07/18/2005 6:46:23 AM PDT by TheForceOfOne (My tagline snapped the last time the MSM blew smoke up my ass. Now its gone forever.)
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In my experience the weirdest aspect of the whole faculty-bias problem is the lengths to which many of my colleagues go to deny it. I think that a sort of groupthink mentality takes hold. If you hear your colleagues constantly reinforcing your views, you for natural cognitive reasons overestimate how widely held they are in the population at large. I have some documentation of and speculation on the reasons for the leftist domination of academia below.

Why Does the Academy Tilt Left?

45 posted on 07/18/2005 9:01:02 AM PDT by untenured (http://futureuncertain.blogspot.com)
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"At universities, conservatives are no stranger to being called "Nazis." Thomas Frank decided to keep that spirit alive. According to him, “They [Republicans] didn’t have any problem with Hitler, other than the fact that they thought he rocked.”

Most conservatives are well enough educated to know that Hitler was a poster boy for Leftism:

1. Anti-Religion
2. Rabid anti-Christian
3. Anti-smoking
4. Pro-health and exercise for the good of the state.
5. SOCIALIST
6. Anti private business
7. Anti personal profit
8. Crusher of civil liberties
9. Pro-abortion
10. Pro-euthanasia for the good of the state

Does that sound more like today's Republican or the Howard Dean/ Hillary Clinton arm of the Democrat party?
47 posted on 07/18/2005 9:20:11 AM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Liberals are blind. They are the dupes of Leftists who know exactly what they're doing.)
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As a counterpoint, what should conservatives now do to take advantage of this situation?

I can think of at least two options:

  1. snicker
  2. laugh openly

49 posted on 07/18/2005 9:30:35 AM PDT by Stultis
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Another panelist, Thomas Frank, the author of What’s the Matter with Kansas?, said progressive values are “freedom plus groceries.”

"Freiheit und Brot".

The slogan's been used before.

52 posted on 07/18/2005 10:51:28 AM PDT by Campion (Truth is not determined by a majority vote -- Pope Benedict XVI)
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