Posted on 07/16/2005 9:37:20 AM PDT by Checkers
An interesting post by Cliff May:
"This morning, I have a piece up elsewhere on NRO showing that The Nations David Corn--not syndicated columnist Bob Novak--was the first to reveal that Valerie Plame was an undercover operative. It further suggests that David did so based on information provided to him by none other than Joseph C. Wilson IV.
While working on that piece, I had an exchange with David and, with his permission, I thought Id share that with you. Dear David:
I have a question--one you may not be willing to answer but Im curious so let me try:
Novaks column said that Plame was an Agency operative. Novak claims he didnt know--and didnt mean to imply--that she was a covert agent.
Your piece, a few days later, says quite explicitly that Plame was a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to nationally security.
How did you know that?
- Cliff David responded:
Come on, Cliff. I'm disappointed in you--especially as a former NY Times reporter. Here's what I wrote:
Did senior Bush officials blow the cover of a US intelligence officer working covertly in a field of vital importance to national security--and break the law--in order to strike at a Bush administration critic and intimidate others?
You will note that this is a question, not a statement of fact. David then quotes extensively from his piece, which I had already read several times and which you can find here.
I then sent him this message: Dear David,
Youre too loyal to acknowledge that Wilson was your source.
Youre also too honest to deny it.
Allbest,
Cliff David replied: You wrote:
Youre too loyal to acknowledge that Wilson was your source.
Youre also too honest to deny it.
All I can say again is, nice try. When I spoke to Joe Wilson after the Novak leak, he would not tell me whether or not his wife worked at the CIA. He spoke only in hypotheticals. He said, imagine if she did, what would this leak mean, AND imagine if she did not, what would this leak mean. So I do deny that he told me because he did not. That's the truth, the absolute truth. No spin. No parsing. No stonewalling. If you find any wiggle room in this response, let me know and I will unwiggle it. And you can believe it or not.
David
PS Mind if I write about our correspondence?
My final message to him: Dear David,
Youre a good reporter. You know when a hypothetical is really a confirmation.
When Wilson told you: So, hypothetically, heres what it what it would mean if my wife were a top-secret agent--which Im not saying she was; and heres what it would mean if she had been on undercover on dangerous missions tracking WMD purchases abroad--which, of course, Im not saying ever happened; and heres what the consequence would be for her extensive network of sources if she were exposed, though Im still not confirming anything --you knew exactly what he was telling you with a wink and a nudge.
Bob Novak did not know that Plame was or had ever been an undercover agent. His sources didnt tell him that. He did not write that she was an undercover agent. If he had known she was a secret agent of any sort he says he would never have published her name.
Novak has maintained all that consistently. Ive disagreed with Bob Novak on many issues and on many occasions. Ive debated him publicly--on the war in Iraq, among other things, where he probably is more in agreement with Wilson than with me.
But one thing about Bob Novak: Hes been around this town about 50 years. Hes a patriot. He would not knowingly burn a spy. And he doesnt lie. You dont stay a major media figure for half a century if youre a liar.
Let me say this clearly: Novak did not know and did not reveal that Plame had been an undercover operative.
You were the first to reveal that.
You did that hypothetically, of course. You were just asking a question, of course. You didnt know whether she was or was not what you called a top-secret operative--but you thought it sure would be interesting if you raised that possibility.
And how much more interesting if you accused the Bush administration of purposely leaking that information as a way to punish Wilson--which has been Wilsons allegation all along-- since he claimed (falsely it turns out) Cheneys office sent him to Niger.
You and I know that he shared all this with you and more--hypothetically, of course.
You got this snowball rolling, David. And it produced the avalanche you and Wilson expected it would. I give you full credit for that.
You certainly may write about our correspondence.
I may do that, too.
Allbest,
Cliff"
Luckily, I must have missed Corn's appearances on FNC. Now, I hit mute when he's on because he's never had anything intelligent to say in the past and I'm sure there's nothing he has to offer now. Wanting news, there really isn't much else to watch. C-SPAN occasionally and some new late night programs on PBS, but that's about it. So, it's limited to watching FNC for the most part.
Tim Rssert-Perjerer?:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1448323/posts
Don't know if you've seen this yet, or not.
I believe Robert Byrd is "Fearless Leader", and I could be wrong although it is definite he used to be "Fearless Recruiter".
The only 'facts' put out were that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA and she recommended that he go to investigate the yellow cake story.
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