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Wilson DID claim "the administration" sent him to Niger. PROOF.
San Jose Mercury News ^ | September 14, 2003 | Joseph Wilson

Posted on 07/15/2005 7:00:07 AM PDT by krazyrep

Published on Sunday, September 14, 2003 by the San Jose Mercury News Seeking Honesty in U.S. Policy by Joseph Wilson

Note the following passage:

At the request of the administration I traveled to the West African nation of Niger in February 2002 to check out the allegation. I reported that such a sale was highly unlikely, but my conclusions -- as well as the same conclusions from our ambassador on the scene and from a four-star Marine Corps general -- were ignored by the White House

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Throughout the piece, Wilson makes it clear that the phrase "the administration" refers NOT to the CIA, but to the highest levels of government, i.e. the White House

PLEASE NOTE: The article originally appeared in the San Jose Mercury News on 9/14/2003, however, that article has been archived and is not accessible in full without a fee. However, Common Dreams, a liberal group (URL is blocked by FR) has the full text of the article:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0915-12.htm

1 posted on 07/15/2005 7:00:09 AM PDT by krazyrep
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To: krazyrep

However, Common Dreams, a liberal group (URL is blocked by FR) has the full text of the article:

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0915-12.htm

Hmmm .. I understand blocking 'liberals' but blocking liberal webpages will take 90% of the material we talk about out of circulation!! ;-) What's the logic in that???

2 posted on 07/15/2005 7:07:10 AM PDT by AgThorn (Bush is my president, but he needs to protect our borders. FIRST, before any talk of "Amnesty.")
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To: krazyrep
but my conclusions -- as well as the same conclusions from our ambassador on the scene and from a four-star Marine Corps general -- were ignored by the White House

IGNORED? - The White House were not the recipients of this "report" so may never have seen it.

Alo, Bush's comment in the State of the Union speech was that Iraq SOUGHT uranium, not BOUGHT uranium, So Wilson's conclusions do not contradict Bush, and in fact, tacitly confirm his comment, in that there was some activity on the part of Iraq but they were unsuccessful in their mission - Hence they WERE seeking Uranium.

3 posted on 07/15/2005 7:11:48 AM PDT by Wil H
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To: krazyrep

Pulling my nomex on, I'm gonna say that this is, IMHO, pretty weak. By the date of this piece, Wilson had publicly stated on numerous occasions that no one in the WH even knew he was going to Niger. He did it again two days after this piece was published. So to claim that he "meant" the WH when he says 'the administration' here is a bit of a stretch.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 7:19:18 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul
Okay, we'll do it the hard way. DIRECT QUOTES from Wilson's article. YOU tell me who "the administration" refers to.

President Bush's speech last Sunday was just the latest example of the administration's concerted efforts to misrepresent reality

By trying to justify the current fight in Iraq as a fight against terrorism, the administration has done two frightening things. It has tried to divert attention from Osama bin Laden

It is perhaps not surprising that the administration is trying to redefine why we went to Iraq, because we have accomplished so little of what we set out to do -- and severely underestimated the commitment it would take to deal with the aftermath of war.

The truth is, the administration has never leveled with the American people on the war with Iraq.

It is true that many people outside the administration, including me and many leading Democrats...

I can provide more. Furthermore, "CIA" NEVER appears in the article, and the only reference to the word "intelligence" has nothing to do with the CIA or any other intelligence gathering organization.

5 posted on 07/15/2005 7:27:44 AM PDT by krazyrep
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To: lugsoul
Is it a stretch?

"The Administration" has always referred to the President and staff.

"The Agency" has always referred to the CIA.

"The Bureau" has always referred to the FBI.

I have no doubts that Wilson was referring to the WH when referring to "the administration".

6 posted on 07/15/2005 7:28:00 AM PDT by mlstier ("Abortion is not a choice. It's changing ones mind.")
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To: krazyrep
Wilson has LIED many times. Rove has testified and told the truth.

Yet the Dems and the media can't figure this out . What a bizarro world they live in

7 posted on 07/15/2005 7:29:01 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: lugsoul
So to claim that he "meant" the WH when he says 'the administration' here is a bit of a stretch.

Not, it ain't. Luggy, how did you miss this thread? :)

8 posted on 07/15/2005 7:31:41 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: krazyrep

Not only was he not "sent" by the administration, his trip was so unofficial, he didn't even submit a written report afterwards. Wilson is a proven liar and why should we believe anything a liar has to say?


9 posted on 07/15/2005 7:31:48 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: 1Old Pro
They have it figured out...they are just master manipulators..Bush haters.
10 posted on 07/15/2005 7:34:10 AM PDT by ladiesview61
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To: Wil H

Excellent points! What I have believed all along.


11 posted on 07/15/2005 7:34:39 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: lugsoul
More quotes PROVING Wilson meant "White House" in this article:

The administration short-circuited the discussion of whether war was necessary because some of its most powerful members felt it was the best option

One way the administration stopped the debate was to oversell its intelligence.

One of the administration's staunchest supporters, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, says ominously that we risk strategic failure if we don't send reinforcements.

Some now argue that the president's speech Sunday represents a change of course. Even if the administration won't admit it made any mistakes, the mere call for international involvement should be enough to persuade the world to accept the burden of assisting us.

While the administration scurries back to the United Nations for help, our historic friends and allies still smart from the gratuitous insults hurled at them nine months ago.

And here's my favorite, UNEQUIVOCALLY equating "the administration" to "the President":

[T]he administration has to start playing it straight, with the American people and with the world. Recent administration statements, including the president's speech, suggest that it still prefers to live in a fantasy world.

Now, you want to try and rephrase that "stretch" comment?

12 posted on 07/15/2005 7:42:10 AM PDT by krazyrep
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To: mewzilla
Apparently, you missed the thread - because it you take even a casual look at it you'll see that I didn't.

You don't really believe that the quotes in number #1 say what the press release claims they say, do you? Perhaps you should take a look at the unedited version.

13 posted on 07/15/2005 7:42:38 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: mlstier
If your supposition is correct, it would mean that Wilson intentionally contradicted a boatload of other - and much, much more prominent - public statements on that issue.
14 posted on 07/15/2005 7:44:04 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: lugsoul

Strange that this Joe Wilson/Karl Rove story seems to hold more water than Sandy Burglar's pants. Methinks the MSM's slips are showing !!!


15 posted on 07/15/2005 7:59:13 AM PDT by Republican Babe (God bless America.)
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To: Wil H
Perhaps the CIA didn't want to find uranium.

Quote: "The senate panel critized the CIA's sloppy work in investigating the Saddam/Africa/uranium connection. All it's information came from foreign intelligence services. Aside from Mr. Wilson's tea drinking expedition, the CIA itself made little effort to gather information on this potentially critical topic. When the Navy received a report from an African businessman that uranium from Niger was stored in a warehouse in Cotineau, Benin, the CIA didn't bother to check it out." Unquote.

16 posted on 07/15/2005 8:03:04 AM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: krazyrep
No, I don't. When the guy is all over TV saying "the White House didn't know I was going to Niger," I think it is a stretch to read "the White House" into his phrase "sent by the administration."

More pertinent, however, is that fact that his was a couple of months after the op-ed, the conversations with reporters, etc. - where is the 'lie' that Rove was trying to 'correct'? It certainly wasn't this one.

17 posted on 07/15/2005 8:05:23 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: pbrown
Seeking Honesty in U.S. Policy
by Joseph Wilson
 

During the gulf war in 1991, when I was in charge of the American Embassy in Baghdad, I placed a copy of Lewis Carroll's ``Alice in Wonderland'' on my office coffee table. I thought it conveyed far better than words ever could the weird world that was Iraq at that time, a world in which nothing was what it seemed: The several hundred Western hostages Saddam Hussein took during Desert Shield were not really hostages but ``guests.'' Kuwait was not invaded, but ``liberated.''

It is clearly time to dust the book off and again display it prominently, only this time because our own government has dragged the country down a rabbit hole, all the while trying to convince the American people that life in newly liberated Iraq is not as distorted as it seems.

It is returning to normal, we are assured, even as we are asked to ante up an additional $75 billion and pressure builds to send more troops and extend the tours of duty of those who are there. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz tells Congress that all we need is to project a little confidence. The Mad Hatter could not have said it better.

President Bush's speech last Sunday was just the latest example of the administration's concerted efforts to misrepresent reality -- and rewrite history -- to mask its mistakes. The president said Iraq is now the center of our battle against terrorism. But we did not go to Iraq to fight Al-Qaida, which remains perhaps our deadliest foe, and we will not defeat it there.

By trying to justify the current fight in Iraq as a fight against terrorism, the administration has done two frightening things. It has tried to divert attention from Osama bin Laden, the man responsible for the wave of terrorist attacks against American interests from New York and Washington to Yemen, and who reappeared in rugged terrain in a video broadcast last week. And the policy advanced by the speech is a major step toward creating a dangerous, self-fulfilling prophecy and reflects a fundamental misunderstanding of the facts on the ground.

This is an insurgency we're fighting in Iraq. Our 130,000 soldiers in Iraq now confront an angry but not yet defeated Sunni Muslim population who, although a minority in Iraq, had been in power for a century. We are now also beginning to face terrorists there, but it is our own doing. Our attack on Iraq -- and our bungling of the peace -- led to the guerrilla insurgency that is drawing jihadists from around the Muslim world. The ``shock and awe'' campaign so vividly shown on our television screens has galvanized historic Arab envy, jealousy and resentment of the United States into white-hot hatred of America.

Where once there were thousands, now there are potentially millions of terrorists and sympathizers who will be drawn into this campaign.

We've seen other examples of the kind of insurgency we're now facing. One was in Afghanistan against the Soviets in the 1980s, and we all should know the end of that story by now. Bin Laden was one of the outside jihadists drawn into that battle; he emerged as the head of a group of hardened soldiers he called Al-Qaida.

It is perhaps not surprising that the administration is trying to redefine why we went to Iraq, because we have accomplished so little of what we set out to do -- and severely underestimated the commitment it would take to deal with the aftermath of war.

The president told us in his seminal speech in Cincinnati in October 2002 that Iraq ``possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons . . . is seeking nuclear weapons . . . has given shelter and support to terrorism, and practices terror against its own people.''

He dismissed the concerns raised by critics of his approach as follows: ``Some worry that a change of leadership in Iraq could create instability and make the situation worse. The situation could hardly get worse, for world security and for the people of Iraq. The lives of Iraqi citizens would improve dramatically if Saddam Hussein were no longer in power.''

Now we know that even if we find chemical or biological weapons, the threat that they posed to our national security was, to be charitable, exaggerated.

It all but disappeared from the president's speech last week and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, one of the leading proponents of the threat, now tells us that he didn't even ask the chief weapons-of-mass-destruction sleuth in Iraq, David Kay, for a status report during his recent trip to Baghdad, relegating such weapons to the same dark corner as bin Laden, whose name rarely passes the lips of our leaders these days.

Indeed, in the most telling revision of the justification for going to war, the State Department's undersecretary for arms control, John Bolton, recently said that whether Saddam's government actually possessed weapons of mass destruction ``isn't really the issue. The issue, I think, has been the capability that Iraq sought to have . . . WMD programs.''

In other words, we're now supposed to believe that we went to war not because Saddam's arsenal of weapons of mass destruction threatened us, but because he had scientists on his payroll.

And the cakewalk post-war scenario that had been painted by some in the administration is anything but. More Americans have died since the president announced the end of major combat operations than during the war itself. The cost runs $1 billion per week in military support alone, and some experts say our deployment is already affecting future military preparedness.

Iraqis live in chaotic conditions as crime flourishes in the unpatrolled streets and family squabbles are settled vigilante style; basic services such as electricity remain unavailable to large segments of the urban population.

The truth is, the administration has never leveled with the American people on the war with Iraq.

It is true that many people outside the administration, including me and many leading Democrats, thought Saddam had residual stocks of weapons of mass destruction; disarmament was a legitimate international objective supported unanimously by the United Nations Security Council. But we did not need to rush to war before exploring other, less risky options.

Invasion, conquest and occupation was always the highest-risk, lowest-reward choice. The intrusive U.N. inspections were disrupting Saddam's programs and weakening him in the eyes of his key supporters, including in the Iraqi military. That would explain why the United States, according to reports, was able to thoroughly infiltrate the army before the onset of hostilities and obtain commitments from Iraqi generals to send their troops home rather than have them fight.

The administration short-circuited the discussion of whether war was necessary because some of its most powerful members felt it was the best option -- ostensibly because they had deluded themselves into believing that they could easily impose flowering democracies on the region.

A more cynical reading of the agenda of certain Bush advisers could conclude that the Balkanization of Iraq was always an acceptable outcome, because Israel would then find itself surrounded by small Arab countries worried about each other instead of forming a solid block against Israel. After all, Iraq was an artificial country that had always had a troublesome history.

One way the administration stopped the debate was to oversell its intelligence. I know, because I was in the middle of the efforts to determine whether Iraq had attempted to purchase uranium ``yellowcake'' -- a form of lightly processed ore -- from Africa.

At the request of the administration I traveled to the West African nation of Niger in February 2002 to check out the allegation. I reported that such a sale was highly unlikely, but my conclusions -- as well as the same conclusions from our ambassador on the scene and from a four-star Marine Corps general -- were ignored by the White House.

Instead, the president relied upon an unsubstantiated reference in a British white paper to underpin his argument in the State of the Union address that Saddam was reconstituting his nuclear weapons programs. How many times did we hear the president, vice president and others speak of the looming threat of an Iraqi mushroom cloud?

Until several months ago, when it came out that the country was Niger, I assumed that the president had been referring to another African country. After I learned, belatedly to be sure, I came forward to insist that the administration correct the misstatements of fact. But the damage had already been done.

The overblown rhetoric about nuclear weapons inspired fear and drowned out the many warnings that invasion would create its own formidable dangers.

Middle East experts warned over and over again that Iraq's many religious and ethnic factions could start battling each other in a bloody struggle for power. Former British foreign secretary Douglas Hurd fretted that we would unleash a terrorist-recruiting bonanza, and former U.S. national security adviser Brent Scowcroft warned of a security meltdown in the region.

The U.S. army's top general at the time, Eric Shinseki, meanwhile, questioned the cakewalk scenario. He told Congress that we would need several hundred thousand soldiers in Iraq to put an end to the violence against our troops and against each other. His testimony was quickly repudiated by both Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.

As we now know, he was close to the mark. Our 130,000 soldiers are failing to stem the violence. Even as Rumsfeld says jauntily that all is going well, Secretary of State Colin Powell is running to the United Nations to try to get more foreign boots on the ground. One of the administration's staunchest supporters, British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, says ominously that we risk strategic failure if we don't send reinforcements.

And the infighting that Middle East experts feared could still erupt. The majority Shiite Muslim population, brutalized during Saddam's rule, is content with a tactical truce with our forces so long as they are free to consolidate their control and the United States continues to kill Sunni Muslims so that they don't have to. That truce is threatened not only by Shiite political ambition but also by ongoing skirmishes with the Sunnis.

The recent car bomb at the An-Najaf mosque that killed one of Shiite Islam's most influential clerics and head of the largest Shiite party in Iraq almost resulted in the outbreak of civil war between the two groups. Widespread belief that Sunni elements were behind the assassination and that the United States failed in its responsibilities for security has brought Shiite armed militias back onto the streets, actively seeking to avenge the death of their leader. Such a war within a war would make our occupation infinitely more dangerous.

Some now argue that the president's speech Sunday represents a change of course. Even if the administration won't admit it made any mistakes, the mere call for international involvement should be enough to persuade the world to accept the burden of assisting us, as we continue to control both the military and the economic reconstruction.

That may well be true, but we cannot count on the international community to do our bidding blindly. While the administration scurries back to the United Nations for help, our historic friends and allies still smart from the gratuitous insults hurled at them nine months ago. This is the same United Nations which Richard Perle, a not-so-invisible hand behind the war, recently called an ``abject failure.''

As Zbigniew Brzezinski, who was President Carter's national security adviser, has pointed out, at a time when our military might is at its zenith, our political and moral authority is at its lowest ebb. Essential trust has been broken, and it will take time to repair. At a minimum, we need to jettison the hubris that has driven this policy, the pretensions of moral rectitude that mask a jodhpurs-and-pith-helmet imperialism that cannot succeed.

In the meantime, we must demonstrate that we understand that more than military might is required to tame the anger in the region. This includes both the internationalization of the reconstruction effort and the redoubling of efforts to ease tensions on the Israeli-Palestinian front.

That is the thorn that must be pulled from the side of the region. The road to peace in the Middle East still goes through Jerusalem.

But before we can hope to win back international trust or start down a truly new path in Iraq, the administration has to start playing it straight, with the American people and with the world. Recent administration statements, including the president's speech, suggest that it still prefers to live in a fantasy world.

JOSEPH WILSON was deputy chief of mission at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad from 1988 to 1991. In July, he called into question the Bush administration's assertions about Iraq seeking uranium from Africa by revealing that he had been asked by the U.S. government to look into such claims -- and had reported in early 2002 that they were unfounded. He is an adjunct scholar at the Middle East Institute in Washington, D.C. He wrote this article for Perspective.


18 posted on 07/15/2005 8:06:16 AM PDT by RobFromGa (Send Bolton to the UN!)
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To: lugsoul

I was being facetious, bright boy. You read, but you didn't understand. Fear not, it'll become clear soon :)


19 posted on 07/15/2005 8:12:06 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: mewzilla

Not if you have anything to do with it.


20 posted on 07/15/2005 8:14:02 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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