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A little birdie told me what the Rove thing is all about.

Posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Don’t ask me, because you know I won’t tell you how I came across this information.

Here is the scoop.

This is all about the Supreme Court.

With the knowledge that Rove was Matthew Cooper’s background source regarding the Plame incident, no matter the fact that no laws were broken, the Democrats leaped upon the matter as a way for Democrats and the MSM to possibly prevent Bush from changing the makeup of the Supreme Court. Under normal circumstances, Democrats cannot stop Bush from reshaping the Supreme Court, and that has Democrats terrified. They cannot sustain a Filibuster without Frist invoking the Nuclear Option on them, so they only have one last option, which is now underway.

The Democrats must demonize Bush to the degree that they can then begin their long-awaited impeachment articles, with the MSM in tow. If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court until the matter is decided. It is the only hope they have left of preventing a Conservative Supreme Court from taking hold, and if they do not accomplish this, the flow of money into Democratic coffers will stop instantaneously.

Next week, you will begin to hear Democrats suggesting that if Bush does not fire Karl Rove, then he is guilty of “Obstruction of Justice” and “Lying to the American People” in order to protect a friend. The Media will play along dutifully, because it was there idea in the first place.

Forget about Judith Miller.

Because the Special Prosecutor has asked the White House not to discuss the matter, no one will be able to inform Miller or the NY Times on how Miller should lie to save herself. Without that knowledge, the Times will not let her testify at all. They are paying her to be silent, and it is they who are actually guilty of ‘Obstruction of Justice’ Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.

What you all are about to see, is the most coordinated, vicious attack ever in the history of Politics against this administration, because those involved have everything at stake. Without control of the Supreme Court, the Liberal agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years. All of their Environmental nonsense, Abortion, Private Property, Affirmative Action and Civil Rights issues go right down the tubes.

The Bush Administration is aware of what is to come, and might be able to prevent it with a little ‘inside baseball’ but the looniest on the left will attempt this no matter what the outcome.

Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who “stole the first election” and won the second election by the “smallest margin of any incumbent President” who is “embroiled in a National Security Scandal” to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. At the same time, Liberal Senators will begin to suggest that Conformation hearings on anyone Bush selects should be postponed until the investigations are over. Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings. Specter is already angry with Bush over the Stem-cell research issue.

Will it work? No. Why? Because Bush understands the law, and also understands (with Rove’s help) that no matter how loud and long the Democrats scream, they and the MSM really cant do anything about the Supreme Court, but can effect public opinion. Bush, by telling Republicans to shut up about his choice, has set precedent for when he tells (by his Supreme Court selections) the Democrats the same thing. If he ignores both sides, he can just choose who he wants, and that is exactly what he will do.

So get ready for an ugly, ugly Summer and Fall. Don’t expect to hear much from Bush on Rove, or the Courts after he makes his selections. Republicans in Congress will also be silent (except Specter and Hagel) and will not risk their own re-elections and legacies to side with Democrats this time round.

So there it is, take it or leave it. I wont answer any questions about how or where I got the information, so don’t ask me.

-PD


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; josephwilson; judithmiller; karlrove; liars; liberals; losers; medialeakers; pukindogsdaman; valerieplame
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To: MinuteGal

Yeah, there is something in this Grand Jury information that is going to make Pelosi and Schumer types look as stupid as the Delay incidents. They will foam at the mouth till you spray them down and then they will just move on to the next person they think will harm Bush. Their motto: Fling as much crap as you can and see what sticks to the wall.


201 posted on 07/14/2005 2:56:46 PM PDT by jw777
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To: iconoclast
Bush could just can Rove and get on with business.

It's gone beyond that now. It's the principal.

Did TurbinDurbin resign? Did sKerry resign? Did all the other liberals and dimocrats resign when they compared our president with the likes of Hitler?

If I were Bush, I would leave Rove last man standing. Everybody would fall, and I mean everybody, before I deserted Rove.

The more the dims get their way...the more they destroy. It has to get to a point where Bush says...that's it...no more.

202 posted on 07/14/2005 2:57:07 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Pukin Dog
Interesting analysis PK. It fits with McPain saying if they filibuster anyone like Bush has been nominating to the Circuit courts it violates the Gang of 14 deal. If they think McPain will support going nuclear then they have to come up with their own nuclear option, something along these lines.

BTW, nicely done dealing with the troll.

203 posted on 07/14/2005 2:57:19 PM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: nickcarraway
She was not covert.

Apparently not, Joe Wilson just said so himself on CNN.
204 posted on 07/14/2005 2:58:14 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: InterceptPoint; Pukin Dog
Pukin; About your source....

For myself, could you tell us that you actually DO have a genuine source for this, and you're not just guessing like the rest of us?

I'm sure you'd protect a real source just as much as Judith Miller is, so I'll take your word for it.

I trust Pukin Dogs....

205 posted on 07/14/2005 2:58:16 PM PDT by narby (There are Bloggers, and then there are Freepers.)
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To: fr_freak
I didn't say fire him because the Democrats want him fired. I said fire him because he screwed up. Frankly he should have resigned and saved us all the bandwidth.

Here's the way these discussiong go. First we heard how there was no way it was Rove who did the leaking. Too much integrity to do such a thing.

Then it begins to look like he did it.

So, the response becomes. So what if he did it? Not a big deal.

In my world, if I go out on a limb to defend my employee and say that they did not do something. They better not have. If it turns out that they did and I end up with egg on my face. That employee hits the road.

206 posted on 07/14/2005 2:59:42 PM PDT by PFC
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To: Pukin Dog
Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who “stole the first election” and won the second election by the “smallest margin of any incumbent President” who is “embroiled in a National Security Scandal” to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. ....

Of course, Bush could ask for Rove's resignation.

And then appoint him to the Supreme Court. THAT would set off the howls....

207 posted on 07/14/2005 3:00:00 PM PDT by archy (The darkness will come. It will find you,and it will scare you like you've never been scared before.)
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To: Pukin Dog
You point out one thing that's been giving me cold sweats for the last few days ... the Arlen Specter factor.

Now that McCain, Graham, and DeWine seem to be on board, there are two men who stand in the way of a conservative court:

(1) The President himself, if he knowingly or unknowingly appoints an O'Connor/Kennedy clone.

(2) Arlen Specter.

I think he will do the right thing ... but I wouldn't bet my life on it.

208 posted on 07/14/2005 3:00:38 PM PDT by Oliver Optic
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To: PFC

NOT WHEN HE DIDN"T DO ANYTHING TO BREAK A LAW.

She was NOT undercover!


209 posted on 07/14/2005 3:01:06 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: narby
Don't I always say so when what I post is my opinion? Now drop it. I'm busy preparing to enter a Spelling Bee.
210 posted on 07/14/2005 3:03:19 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: PFC
I didn't say fire him because the Democrats want him fired. I said fire him because he screwed up. Frankly he should have resigned and saved us all the bandwidth.

And score another hit for the dimocrats? I don't think so.

211 posted on 07/14/2005 3:03:45 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: PFC
Frankly he should have resigned and saved us all the bandwidth

If Rove lets himself be killed off like Obi Wan, he will only become stronger.

212 posted on 07/14/2005 3:04:27 PM PDT by normy (Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.)
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To: longtermmemmory
Democrats are silly, they control the law schools, every major mandatory bar association, and even the voluntary ABA.

The fact that Bush can even FIND a conservative judicial candidate is a minor miracle.

Pro 22:6 "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

No matter how hard these lousy organizations try, we'll always have conservative judicial candidates.

213 posted on 07/14/2005 3:05:49 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: Pukin Dog
Pukin Dog, you've always had great posts, but you've been a light in a long dark tunnel this week...
214 posted on 07/14/2005 3:06:51 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: PFC
Take an aspirin.

Rove screwed up nothing. He did nothing wrong. This controversy is good for us and bad for Democrats. While they do this, they don't come up with anything that might work for them.
215 posted on 07/14/2005 3:06:52 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: BoBToMatoE; Eva
Here are two links for your reading pleaseure.

Journalism 101 --What some reporters ought to be asking members of the White House press corps.

amici curiae brief PDF

216 posted on 07/14/2005 3:07:03 PM PDT by PogySailor
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To: Pukin Dog

A little birdie told you that...quidam? Well, it sounds pretty stupid to me.


217 posted on 07/14/2005 3:08:03 PM PDT by firequarrel (The Republican Party had been taken over by a "bunch of kooks" - Barry Goldwater.)
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To: normy
If Rove lets himself be killed off like Obi Wan, he will only become stronger.

Is your sarcasm tag off?

Why in Gods name would Rove fall on a sword for a lie and make our enemies stronger to boot?

I'm telling ya, I don't understand where alot of FReepers are coming from lately concerning Rove. The man has done NOTHING!!!

218 posted on 07/14/2005 3:08:13 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Howlin

Then Joe Wilson lied back in 2004 when he said over and over on MSM that she was covert. He was covering up the nepotism in his wife landing the junket to Africa for him so he could drink sweet mint tea.


219 posted on 07/14/2005 3:08:40 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: nickcarraway
Just semantics... If a state had a law making abortion illegal, I would assume that there would be injuctions filed against the state enforcing the law.

Overturning Roe Vs Wade would simply let the states make the decision.

Mark

220 posted on 07/14/2005 3:09:07 PM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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