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Immigration Overhaul Seen as Key to Domestic Security and to help secure borders
LATimes ^

Posted on 07/14/2005 11:25:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe

Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, portraying immigration policy as a vital weapon against terrorism, pledged Wednesday to tighten border security but also called on Congress to approve a guest worker program that would make it easier for foreign workers to enter the country legally.

"We must gain full control of our borders to prevent illegal immigration and security breaches," Chertoff said.

But, he added, "control of the border will also require reducing the demand for illegal border migration" by channeling needed workers through a new legal system. Implicit in the guest worker program would be an increase in the number of legal immigrants.

"Without question the most difficult problem the department has to face is immigration enforcement," said Rep. Christopher Cox (R-Newport Beach), chairman of the House Committee on Homeland Security. "It's of vital importance.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


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A great gathering of minds here . .

Joe to Moe: "What are we gonna do about the border Moe?"

Moe to Joe: "If we ain't got no border, then we ain't got no problem!"

1 posted on 07/14/2005 11:25:08 AM PDT by Happy2BMe
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To: Reagan Man; Reaganwuzthebest; Gipper08; JohnHuang2; keri; international american; Kay Soze; jpsb; ..
This is known as "blowing smoke up your butt" in some circles . .

(DOUBLESPEAK in others . .)

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"We must gain full control of our borders to prevent illegal immigration and security breaches," Chertoff said.

2 posted on 07/14/2005 11:27:12 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

What about reducing demand for illegals by actually prosecuting the employers ?


3 posted on 07/14/2005 11:27:50 AM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Happy2BMe


U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:

"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,

and shall protect each of them against Invasion;"


Invasion: \In*va"sion\, n. [L. invasio: cf. F. invasion. See Invade.] [1913 Webster]

1. The act of invading; the act of encroaching upon the rights or possessions of another; encroachment; trespass.


4 posted on 07/14/2005 11:28:04 AM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Sam the Sham
Why prosecute employers when fortunes are being made hand-over-fist in the UNDERGROUND ECONOMY?

Somebody has to do it don't they?

5 posted on 07/14/2005 11:42:06 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I am not from Missouri but you will have to "Show Me" anyways. Been fooled way to many times lately. Give me this but I pay for that. Pay back time come the elections.


6 posted on 07/14/2005 11:45:56 AM PDT by Sterco
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To: Happy2BMe
But, he added, "control of the border will also require reducing the demand for illegal border migration" (My emphasis)

Sooo, there is a demand for illegal border migration. Just exactly WHO is making that demand? Answer that question and you have the culprit responsible for the ever increasing numbers of human liter.

7 posted on 07/14/2005 11:46:04 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the constitution, always. Allegiance to a political party, never.)
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To: varon; Sterco; devolve
If you go to the source of this article (in heading of this thread) you will see that the Dept. Of Homeland Security is about to undergo ANOTHER major reshuffling.

This will be the THIRD major revision in as many years of this department (one of the largest ever created in the history of the United States Government).

Thousands of bureaucrats generating tens of thousands of reports and making ZERO progress on Homeland Security.

The solution is simple . .

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8 posted on 07/14/2005 11:51:47 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
Why can't we open ten "Ellis Islands"

We seal the borders and set a yearly quota on legal immigrants

Tell them,

"You want to come to the U.S.?,fine,You will become an American citizen,You will enter through one of these centers,your identity, background,health,etc. will be checked.

You will be turned back if you do not qualify,You will be monitored as you go through the process to become an American citizen if you do,You will be shot if you try to come to the U.S. by any other means than through these centers."

9 posted on 07/14/2005 11:57:10 AM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: varon
Sooo, there is a demand for illegal border migration. Just exactly WHO is making that demand? Answer that question and you have the culprit responsible for the ever increasing numbers of human liter.

I've read several articles here on FR that leads me to believe the person making that demand is VICENTE FOX, and the person complying to the Potentates demands would be GEORGE W. BUSH..the great illegal loving, constitution tromping US President!

10 posted on 07/14/2005 11:57:27 AM PDT by Iron Matron (Illegals should be Caught and Deported; not Released and Supported!)
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To: varon; Sterco; devolve; Ajnin; Marine Inspector

In all fairness to the devoted Amercians working in one of these many 'Homeland Security' departments, I must salute them all in recognition of the fact that we have NOT (thank God) had another 9/11.


11 posted on 07/14/2005 11:58:33 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: mdittmar

What is wrong with the system we have in place? No, we do not need to increase our already generous legal immigration. We could however tell those coming in illegally that they will be shot if we catch em coming across as such. In the end when the damage is done there will be much finger pointing and screaming. We all know where the blame lies. I will remember.


12 posted on 07/14/2005 12:00:36 PM PDT by Sterco
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To: mdittmar
"We seal the borders and set a yearly quota on legal immigrants"

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We won't find security until we do.

The other monumental task will be what to do with the estimated 12 to 15 MILLION illegal aliens already living here.

The more our government stands by and allows this invasion to continue, the more painful the solution will be when that moment does finally (and it will) come.

13 posted on 07/14/2005 12:01:31 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe
"what to do with the estimated 12 to 15 MILLION illegal aliens already living here."

Crack down hard on employers hiring them,arrest the illegals,ask them where they want to go,drive,bus, fly them there.

"There goes my SS,there goes the price of fruit and veggies,but the farmers,blah,blah,blah",I don't care,illegals must go.

14 posted on 07/14/2005 12:15:46 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: mdittmar
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Myths and lies of illegal immigration

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15 posted on 07/14/2005 12:17:32 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

This shows what our leadership really thinks of our intelligence. They are trying to change our minds by saying "it's for the children".


16 posted on 07/14/2005 12:23:43 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Happy2BMe

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...This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community ," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005. The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

It was at this same meeting, grandly called the North American summit, that President Bush pinned the epithet "vigilantes" on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona.

A follow-up meeting was held in Ottawa on June 27, where the U.S. representative, Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff, told a news conference that "we want to facilitate the flow of traffic across our borders." The White House issued a statement that the Ottawa report "represents an important first step in achieving the goals of the Security and Prosperity Partnership."

The CFR document calls for creating a "North American preference" so that employers can recruit low-paid workers from anywhere in North America. No longer will illegal aliens have to be smuggled across the border; employers can openly recruit foreigners willing to work for a fraction of U.S. wages.

Just to make sure that bringing cheap labor from Mexico is an essential part of the plan, the CFR document calls for "a seamless North American market" and for "the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico."
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http://www.eagleforum.org/column/2005/july05/05-07-13.html


17 posted on 07/14/2005 12:25:17 PM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com (Google search North American Community.)
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
This CFR document, called "Building a North American Community ," asserts that George W. Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox, and Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin "committed their governments" to this goal when they met at Bush's ranch and at Waco, Texas on March 23, 2005.

The three adopted the "Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America" and assigned "working groups" to fill in the details.

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Joint Statement by President George Bush and President Vicente Fox Towards a Partnership for Prosperity

NAFTA cited as immigration factor (They are here because we are there.)

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CAFTA will export U.S. farm jobs

CAFTA's Threats to U.S. Independence


18 posted on 07/14/2005 12:33:27 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I don't feel very secure in my homeland.


19 posted on 07/14/2005 12:56:16 PM PDT by WalterSkinner
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To: WalterSkinner; B4Ranch; Jeff Head; devolve
The 'Powers That Be' have more than one good reason to be a little nervous these days . .

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20 Nuclear Suitcase Bombs inside the USA

20 posted on 07/14/2005 12:59:30 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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