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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: TexKat

Whoa. Obviously Charles knows a LOT after having listened to this call. His use of the words "hard to handle" and "far-reaching implications" makes me think that he heard more than Natalee's voice on that call. Could there have been a ransom call?? And somehow the public was kept totally in the dark about it? Could one call have been from Natalee and other voices, possibly threatening, could be heard in the background?


1,381 posted on 07/17/2005 8:41:32 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

when I wrote "hotties", I was referring to certain Ladies of the Thread, and that since his ph # is at the link they can call him :)


1,382 posted on 07/17/2005 8:47:45 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: cajungirl
too funny---but dogs can be put down!

Someone said that Joran would always be looking over his shoulder, I doubt it, not if he is a sociopath. He'd be oblivious--what lands this other person I know in jail, is not typically his 'crimes' per se, it's drunk driving, and THEN the other stuff catches up to him! The way Joran drinks--if he were to come to the states--that's what would catch attn of law enforcement. (In my opinion anyway)

1,383 posted on 07/17/2005 8:48:42 AM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: WestCoastGal

I didn't see the footage of Joran hitting the car. Sounds like it's finally getting to him. Can someone give me the situation?


1,384 posted on 07/17/2005 8:49:12 AM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless The Gipper)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

He has a cute wife and ADORABLE little Junior! They should leave him alone! LOL.


1,385 posted on 07/17/2005 8:50:30 AM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Landry Fan
I didn't see the footage of Joran hitting the car.

Me, either & I was watching closely.

1,386 posted on 07/17/2005 8:52:32 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: Yaelle

All... anyone know if Natalee has a 16 year biological brother or was she BHT only child?

I heard it menrioned that there was a 16 year old son.


1,387 posted on 07/17/2005 8:54:20 AM PDT by stopem
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To: toldyou

"...it is illegal to perform any advanced life saving techniques unless you arrive at the hospital with a pulse..."

That is astonishing.....maybe Natalees disappearance receives short shrift from the arubans because she failed to submit a complaint in triplicate to aruban LE?


1,389 posted on 07/17/2005 8:54:34 AM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Lizarde

"I missed the hitting the car hood incident - what did police do?"

Nothing. J came around the front of the car to get in the opened door and as he did he hit the car hood. He was not escourted around the car. The LE person was standing off to the right of the opened door and walked over to J as J reached the door. The LE person was writing something down as he approached J. That is all I saw.


1,390 posted on 07/17/2005 8:55:56 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: No Surrender No Retreat
Mr. Selleck is a very good actor/Republican/Conservative.

Not to quibble, but I think although very conservative on some issues (like gun possession) not so on all 'social issues' and I believe he's an independent. Let's see I'm almost 36, so I've now had a crush/admired this guy for far too many years. My mom vividly remembers that when I was a pre-teen I figured out Tom Selleck was old enough to be my dad, I was crushed for about a week.... :)

1,392 posted on 07/17/2005 9:00:43 AM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: Lizarde

Perhaps J did open the car door. I was so surprised to see J walking around the car alone and hitting the hood as he did. Then noticed the LE person approach him at the car door. I could have missed that J actually opened the car door.


1,393 posted on 07/17/2005 9:00:46 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: WestCoastGal
Did anyone see the video of JvdS hitting the car hood with his handcuffed hands yesterday while on another visit to the beach with the keystone kops?

Good morning WCG, yes I did see that. Appears JVDS was a little grumpy. Wonder why :)!!

1,394 posted on 07/17/2005 9:06:51 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay

Hi Deejay.

I don't have cable. So, I'm stuck with only a few stations usually showing either racing or golf. =( Most of the coverage/information about Natalee that I've been following has been through FR. I'm grateful for the informative posts and transcripts.

I hope Natalee's family realizes the support and sympathy people feel for them. I'll never visit Aruba.

That VDS family is creepy.


1,396 posted on 07/17/2005 9:08:38 AM PDT by Landry Fan (God Bless The Gipper)
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To: Landry Fan

Hi Landry Fan!

Maybe you could get a satellite dish?


1,397 posted on 07/17/2005 9:13:20 AM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: cajungirl
So how did she find out? I think her detectives are on the prowl. Make sense? I mean, who told her if not her investigator.

Also, Charles Croes has stated that he stays in touch with Beth and families.

1,398 posted on 07/17/2005 9:14:38 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Lizarde
thanks! I thought I saw him open and close the car door twice?

What I saw was Joran after coming around the front of the vehicle, hitting the hood, upon reaching the door, gesture as if he was going to open the vehicle door, then end of clip.

1,399 posted on 07/17/2005 9:29:32 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Certainly could have been that way. My old eyes miss things and I guess sometimes try to make sense out of what I have seen! Either way, it sure looked like J was quiet upset.:)


1,400 posted on 07/17/2005 9:35:21 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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